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A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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About the subject or the writing style? I thought it was an interesting article, especially for ars

About the writing style, for example talking about looking a dinosaur in its "face". It is jarring and I didn't like reading it.

The only other mention of a face in the article is that that its face was preserved. Is your objection to the “looking into its face” posture, or the notion of it having a face in the first place, or something else?

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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This fossil is at the Royal Tyrrell Museum[0] in Drumheller, Southern Alberta, Canada. It is by far the best dinossaur museum in the world and also has a fine exhibition on the Burgess Shale, one the best fossil sites in the world for the Cambrian Revolution. The only other claim to fame for the town of Drumheller is the band Nickelback was formed close by. But that's something most Canadians don't like to talk about…

If you type into Google “why does everyone hate” it will autosuggest “nickelback”.

I watched a doco once on why everyone hates them. It was interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever heard their music.

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

About the subject or the writing style? I thought it was an interesting article, especially for ars

About the writing style, for example talking about looking a dinosaur in its "face". It is jarring and I didn't like reading it.

Some languages besides English have distinct terms for a human face vs. an animal face. Is that what you're referring to?

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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Where are the feathers?!? Looks just like a dragon.

From what I understand, it was more the Therapods that are thought to have had feathers. This is an ankylosaur which was a heavily armored dinosaur.

For further context: "dinosaurs" covers a time range MUCH longer than the time since they went extinct, i.e. enough time for almost all mammals and modern birds and darn near everything you can see today except crocodiles and horseshoe crabs to evolve.

There was a large variety. An extremely large variety. As much as we are understandably excited about feathers being a thing that we didn't realize earlier, in 100+ million years a lot of things evolve. They didn't all have feathers.

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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This fossil is at the Royal Tyrrell Museum[0] in Drumheller, Southern Alberta, Canada. It is by far the best dinossaur museum in the world and also has a fine exhibition on the Burgess Shale, one the best fossil sites in the world for the Cambrian Revolution. The only other claim to fame for the town of Drumheller is the band Nickelback was formed close by. But that's something most Canadians don't like to talk about…

They also have an online shop, with some pretty cool dinosaur t-shirts.

https://www.tyrrellmuseumshop.com/collections/category-2

I came across this online shop somehow a few years ago, and thought it would be hilarious to order from the museum shop of a museum I’ve never even been to, and in a country I haven’t been to either at that.

Not sure where I have those dinosaur T-shirts now but I wore them every now and then for a few years at least :) The T-Rex Skeleton T-shirt being my favourite among the ones I bought from there.

https://www.tyrrellmuseumshop.com/collections/category-2/pro...

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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This fossil is at the Royal Tyrrell Museum[0] in Drumheller, Southern Alberta, Canada. It is by far the best dinossaur museum in the world and also has a fine exhibition on the Burgess Shale, one the best fossil sites in the world for the Cambrian Revolution. The only other claim to fame for the town of Drumheller is the band Nickelback was formed close by. But that's something most Canadians don't like to talk about…

A few more Drumheller facts:

Drumheller was one of the filming locations for Ghostbusters: Afterlife.

The Star Trek museum originally located in Vulcan, Alberta is now in Drumheller.

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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post #11

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From what I understand, it was more the Therapods that are thought to have had feathers. This is an ankylosaur which was a heavily armored dinosaur.

Regardless of whether this specific dinosaur is thought to have feathers or not, I was wondering if feathers would survive the fossilization in the first place? Is there anything intrinsic to feathers that would make them different in that regard, then, say, the skin (which apparently is relatively well preserved)?

Under very special preservation circumstances, feathers to fossilize. You can see some examples of dinosaur fossils in this Wikipedia article. If you search you can also find lots of bird feature fossils (avian dinosaurs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaur

this article is from The NY Times and I am only linking to it because the first photo in that article is an amazing fossil of a feather. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/science/dinosaur-feather-...

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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post #4

Where are the feathers?!? Looks just like a dragon.

From what I understand, it was more the Therapods that are thought to have had feathers. This is an ankylosaur which was a heavily armored dinosaur.

Considering natural selection is rarely wasteful at the species level, must've been some nasty predators to evolve that much armor.

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand, it was more the Therapods that are thought to have had feathers. This is an ankylosaur which was a heavily armored dinosaur.

For further context: "dinosaurs" covers a time range MUCH longer than the time since they went extinct, i.e. enough time for almost all mammals and modern birds and darn near everything you can see today except crocodiles and horseshoe crabs to evolve. There was a large variety. An extremely large variety. As much as we are understandably excited about feathers being a thing that we didn't realize earlier, in 100+ mi…

> enough time for almost all mammals and modern birds and darn near everything you can see today except crocodiles and horseshoe crabs to evolve.

I know what you're trying to say, but every living thing today, from the mammals to the fungus among us, have spent the same amount of time evolving, dating back to the first life, or at least the first life encoded for reproduction. Except for the birds, the dinosaurs quit early.

Re: A dinosaur with a remarkably preserved face

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For further context: "dinosaurs" covers a time range MUCH longer than the time since they went extinct, i.e. enough time for almost all mammals and modern birds and darn near everything you can see today except crocodiles and horseshoe crabs to evolve. There was a large variety. An extremely large variety. As much as we are understandably excited about feathers being a thing that we didn't realize earlier, in 100+ mi…

> enough time for almost all mammals and modern birds and darn near everything you can see today except crocodiles and horseshoe crabs to evolve. I know what you're trying to say, but every living thing today, from the mammals to the fungus among us, have spent the same amount of time evolving, dating back to the first life, or at least the first life encoded for reproduction. Except for the birds, the dinosaurs quit…

Whales evolved from small land mammals since about 50 million years (half the time since dinosaurs) (it took them more like 20 million, but I'm being generous because whales still exist).

100 million years is an extremely long time. A lot happens in that amount of time.

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