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Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by FreeKill »

unreal37 wrote: post #2

How do you add yourself to the Hacker News Circle? I added the circle to my stream. Anything more I need to do?

The only other thing you need to do, other than add the circle to your profile, is occasionally go back to the circle and add it again (to the same circle in your profile) to get the newest list of people. Unfortunately, adding a shared circle only adds a copy of it at that moment, but not a dynamic one that updates itself.

It's not so bad though, because adding a circle to an existing circle simply adds in people not already in there.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by notatoad »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #12

Thanks! This is bound to liven up my stream. I will refrain from adding myself to the HN circle though as I'm currently only a wanna-be hacker. But I do have have a fear of other wannabe hackers adding themselves to the circle and maybe polluting my stream with content that isn't as high quality as I'm used to on HN. (no upvote/downvote mechanism)

when you add the circle, you're adding a copy of the circle and can remove people from your copy any time you want. at least, that's my understanding of how G+ works. so if some goof that you don't like starts posting, you should be able to just remove them.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by jaredsohn »

lhnz wrote: post #19

This is a smart move. There are many interesting directions and questions. (1) Can we choose to give a particular search weight to different Google+ groups that are against our profile? I'd like to see what Hacker News thinks the search results should be and I'd like to see what my friends think the search results should be. (2) Following from the previous point, I believe Google could effectively turn this into a so…

>allow us to update our profile in the circle to include our Hacker News username

FYI, the Hacker News username is already an optional field that was added after some people had already added themselves; not sure if you can update your profile or not if you didn't include it earlier.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by mey »

zalew wrote: post #13
unreal37 wrote: post #2

How do you add yourself to the Hacker News Circle? I added the circle to my stream. Anything more I need to do?

https://plus.google.com/106419647632534512037/posts it's just a page. if I understand correctly what's going on on the page, we need to add people to our own circle every time they publish the updated circle. //edit: it looks fine except people who write public posts in their native language which I do not understand. I hope the author thought about spam prevention or we'll get lots of 'funny videos and pictures' pro…

I wish posts had a native language the are posted in, since I have friends in Mexico that post things both in English and Spanish, I have no desire to grok their Spanish posts, so the ability to filter circles or the main stream based on certain things is something Google+ as a whole needs.

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Post by mkr-hn »

Being able to weigh results by G+ posts has made discovering new and interesting things inevitable, not just easy. Sometimes I find new and interesting things that aren't even related to what I was searching for. It's like StumbleUpon in the early days.

For example, I needed a Top Posts plugin for WordPress. I drowned in a sea of plugins, spam, and blog posts with the default search. Social weighting put the perfect plugin right on top. And it's been the same for every query I've tried so far.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by jaredsohn »

notatoad wrote: post #22
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #12

Thanks! This is bound to liven up my stream. I will refrain from adding myself to the HN circle though as I'm currently only a wanna-be hacker. But I do have have a fear of other wannabe hackers adding themselves to the circle and maybe polluting my stream with content that isn't as high quality as I'm used to on HN. (no upvote/downvote mechanism)

when you add the circle, you're adding a copy of the circle and can remove people from your copy any time you want. at least, that's my understanding of how G+ works. so if some goof that you don't like starts posting, you should be able to just remove them.

except if you update the Hacker News circle, you'll need to remove them again.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by abrahamsen »

drinkzima wrote: post #18

Isn't the whole point that if these Hacker News G+ results are good they should be shown to everyone and if they aren't then they should not. This isn't a 'social' problem it's a ranking problem, right?

Yes and no.

Yes, in that part of what you do is to tell Google "I trust these people" and give them higher ranking than random "search engine optimized" pages.

No, in that someone who follow the hacker news circle and search for "android" will likely prefer results about programming and marketing android applications, which are not the optimal results for the general public.

So the social graph does to things: it states trust (improves general quality of results), and it states interests (improves specific targeting of results).

The later obviously is more likely to work for interest based circles like "hacker news" than for your Family or even Friends circles.

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