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The companies that wait for a 100% "clean" model are going to get left behind. e.g. ChatGPT launching despite Google, Meta and others already having very similar technology internally
There is already a class action lawsuit. The companies that move forward with "dirty" models can be wiped out by legal fees before they got off the ground.
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#24> 256 A100 throughput was extrapolated using the other throughput measurements
Is it an indictment of their service that they couldn't afford 256 GPUs on their own cloud?
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#25There are some large AWS customers that probably burn that in idle time on a bunch of unused machines per week (probably day).
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This will likely just entrench the companies with pockets deep enough to satisfy the lawyers in the class action suits. It might burn down a startup. On the other hand, if Microsoft thinks it's a potential $500 billion business, a $1 billion settlement is just table stakes.
This ignores that a legal remedy can be "you can no longer offer this as a product".
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#27We can do it for way less using spot instances on AWS, though it takes longer.
I highly doubt you could get anywhere near the same price.
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This will likely just entrench the companies with pockets deep enough to satisfy the lawyers in the class action suits. It might burn down a startup. On the other hand, if Microsoft thinks it's a potential $500 billion business, a $1 billion settlement is just table stakes.
This ignores that a legal remedy can be "you can no longer offer this as a product".
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#29Still pretty pricey for average person, but these will trend cheaper and why I think it's futile to "regulate" AI. Someone somewhere will train models on anything visible to public, licensed or not. Feels like Pandora's box has been opened and we need to deal with it.
As usual, AI has no agency. I believe we should view AI as simply an extension of our own agency. Thus, if you prompt an AI to generate copyrighted work, that's fine. Viewing it yourself is like imagination. However, just as you can draw mickey mouse for your own fun all you want, you cannot sell such images.
[a]: Of course, IANAL, and it’s up to the courts
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#30Data truly is the new oil. When it’s all done the compute costs and code will be cheap or free. There’s a lot hinging on how we interpret copyright laws or what kind of data rights laws we enact.