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Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by Nimitz14 »

j45 wrote: post #20
xwowsersx wrote: post #7

> Remember when social media was fun, introduced you to big ideas and cool people, and actually made you smarter? Remember when it didn't waste your time and make you angry or sad? When you could disagree with someone without being threatened or insulted? We want to bring that back with Post. > We believe that all humans are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights that include life, liberty, and the pursuit of…

It wasn’t lofty. It was real and existed that way. For some time too. Maybe the scientific approach to manufacturing and maintaining adoption and the ways to do it was part of the issue. Experiencing this early way expanded your mind and viewpoints, instead of feeding your more on the track you are to keep you scrolling. It wasn’t as much as everything was new, only that there were so many different things being expe…

It existed that way when you yourself were younger and knew less and there were was a high prob that whoever you were talking to could teach you something.

teenagers still experience it the same way.

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by headsoup »

Another attempt to basically recreate forums at scale again, just like them all before.

If you can't moderate against your policies at scale, you'll be no more successful. Even using 'clever' AI and algorhythms is useless vs a manageable community size and good moderators.

You can't be a social platform for all and have it both ways in opening free speech up on all topics but with easy moderation.

There's a very good reason most internet forums had/have specific rules against discussing politics and religion, and here we are trying to include them at scale. Ha. This is especially hard if you want it to be publicly open for all on all topics.

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by notatoad »

headsoup wrote: post #22

Another attempt to basically recreate forums at scale again, just like them all before. If you can't moderate against your policies at scale, you'll be no more successful. Even using 'clever' AI and algorhythms is useless vs a manageable community size and good moderators. You can't be a social platform for all and have it both ways in opening free speech up on all topics but with easy moderation. There's a very good…

is it though? it looks to me like this is the opposite of trying to scale policies - they're picking premium news that can be trusted to not need their moderation policies, and highlighting that.

the riff-raff can be subject to moderation policies, but there's no need to hire moderators to watch over reuters or propublica.

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by anticodon »

"Investigative journalism", yadda, yadda.

Journalism is dead. There is only propaganda (2-3 kinds of propaganda). Or maybe it was always the case only that I never noticed that.

There are 8 billion people in this world, close to 200 countries. Every second, there are millions of different events happen everywhere. Someone is born, someone dies, someone is killed, someone is promoted, some building is built, some building is being demolished.

There is simply no way to describe all this in any newspaper. The more I live, the more I see that every paper, TV channel, blogger, carefully selects tiny percent of facts out of billions of facts that happen every day. Only those facts that push the agenda or fits existing view.

There's no independent news and can't be. I don't know even what happens in a district which is 5 km away from my house. Thinking that I'm perfectly aware of what happens in some country that is 1000, 2000, or 6000 km away from my home is insanity.

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by scarface74 »

> the tech platforms refuse to share revenue with publishers.

This sounds like the same talking point that Rupert Murdock used to convince Australia to pass a law that basically forced Facebook and Google to give him some of their revenue.

https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/australia-pressured-goo...

But every time that Facebook and Google say “okay instead of us paying you, we just won’t put you on our site”, publishers start whining

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by alxmng »

I might be the odd one out, but I don't want diverse news sources and perspectives. I want a source I trust to inform me about things that matter from a shared perspective and ideology.

Re: So why a News Feed?

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Post by INTPenis »

paxys wrote: post #15
xwowsersx wrote: post #7

> Remember when social media was fun, introduced you to big ideas and cool people, and actually made you smarter? Remember when it didn't waste your time and make you angry or sad? When you could disagree with someone without being threatened or insulted? We want to bring that back with Post. > We believe that all humans are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights that include life, liberty, and the pursuit of…

I remember a time when social media was like they describe. It was when I was in college and we used it to share photos of each other drunk at parties. It turned into a disaster the moment people decided it was also a good place to discuss news and politics. If you want to recreate "fun social media", focus on the things that made it fun in the first place and remove everything else. And you'll be too late, because p…

>It turned into a disaster the moment people decided it was also a good place to discuss news and politics.

Nail on head right here.

I was never big on social media, got into StatusNet (later ActivityPub) back in 2017 because it seemed cool technically.

So for years it was a very nice place where people mostly discussed very niche topics like computers and art.

Then Elon decided to stir the pot by trying to buy twitter and two huge waves of twitter users came over in 2022.

Now it's toxic, and I honestly believe it's because of the political and news discussions. Well they go hand in hand because people link to the news about what's going on in politics, and this is the catalyst.

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