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I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#22
See "Bing and DuckDuckGo removed my business web site" https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/bing.html and "My website disappeared from Bing and DuckDuckGo, Part 2" https://www.jessesquires.com/blog/2022/07/25/my-website-disa...

[EDIT] I just published a new blog post "Bing and DuckDuckGo removed my business web site AGAIN" https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/bing2.html

Sigh.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#23
post #17

This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.

Yes. Unfortunately people increasingly use "shadow ban" to just mean "ban", perhaps it sounds cool?

Elon wants to redefine the term as well but for the purpose of a coordinated witch hunt. People like using shadow ban because it sounds more malicious vs. content that is no longer actively promoted by a company. It's hard to claim you're a victim if the reason is you're just not that interesting or popular.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#25
post #12

This triggered me to DuckDuckGo my own site and immediately I notice the top result is someone rehosting my OSS on a page loaded with pages of crap SEO content. Scrolling further, I don’t seem to find my own site either… https://donatstudios.com I’ve added my site into Bing webmaster tools, we’ll see if it helps I guess.

Wow. I think I've used your circle generator on that other site without realizing it. That sucks. I've bookmarked yours now!

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#26
Negative SEO scammers use intentional search-policy violations to push down the rank of perceived competitors for a few weeks.

While it is more likely the poster will get a few people to check on the situation and naively drive up page rank... a personal site is just a rounding error for traffic in a long-tail distribution known as the modern web.

Most search engines will correlate user-side telemetry traffic against crawler and web stats. i.e. if the bots tend to prefer your site for abnormal reasons, the ranking algorithm may blacklist a signature, domain, and IP sets for several weeks as punishment.

Note too, it is still common for a human employee to manually check a suddenly popular site that pops up out of obscurity. i.e. this catches the more sophisticated cheats, and may have legal repercussions in severe cases.

In summary, if you mess with modern search engines, than expect the ban hammer to fall eventually. ;)

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#27
The background image doesn't render on the homepage in Firefox. This makes the blog links appear as very light blue text on a white background. Makes me wonder how it renders for the crawler and whether it's getting flagged for invisible content.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#28
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Unfortunately people increasingly use "shadow ban" to just mean "ban", perhaps it sounds cool?

Elon wants to redefine the term as well but for the purpose of a coordinated witch hunt. People like using shadow ban because it sounds more malicious vs. content that is no longer actively promoted by a company. It's hard to claim you're a victim if the reason is you're just not that interesting or popular.

Well if you are silently placed on a hide list (by manual human intervention without you being able to know without a third party), then by all means that is a shadow ban.

Edit for clarity.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#29

This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.

Is there also a term for being algorithmically suppressed on a social media platform, I wonder? I.e. a much more subtle, harder to dectect mechanism whereby the algorithms ensure you get some exposure, but never the same as other unsuppressed people would get based on similar activity. Or only exposure to a certain limited subset of the graph based on some metrics (e.g. just your 'friends' so no one points out you are effectively shadow banned).

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#30
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Unfortunately people increasingly use "shadow ban" to just mean "ban", perhaps it sounds cool?

Elon wants to redefine the term as well but for the purpose of a coordinated witch hunt. People like using shadow ban because it sounds more malicious vs. content that is no longer actively promoted by a company. It's hard to claim you're a victim if the reason is you're just not that interesting or popular.

He’s kinda Trump-esque in his willingness to just redefine words (and basically pretend the original use never existed) to his own benefit and have his followers jump on board. Another great Elon example of this is Tesla’s “Autopilot.”
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