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Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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Interestingly it appears this check happens clientside so a super-knowledgeable user could bypass the check by using the browser console to empty the “bad words” array.

I tend to do checks on both client and server side.

Client side so they get immediate feedback, nice error indicators and etc.

Server side for other/ additional checks.

Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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To me, this is very similar to the recent post about email address validation. Very often, companies feel the need to validate certain inputs themselves and do a terrible job, when there's a better solution. When it comes to addresses, if they're in the U.S. there is an easy way to validate delivery addresses - the USPS. They offer free access to an API that includes address validation, and thankfully most shipping s…

> the USPS... offer free access to an API that includes address validation, and thankfully most shipping services now use it. Unfortunately not all. My street "number", like 100,000 other houses near me, includes a letter in the middle. USPS will happily validate it correctly, but there are still websites I encounter from time to time that complain or refuse to work. Where I am, 100 years ago, if your house wasn't in…

If you don't mind, which metro area is this? I have an interest in street grids and address numbering systems; this just sounded like a peculiarity I'd like to read up on.

Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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post #23

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> the USPS... offer free access to an API that includes address validation, and thankfully most shipping services now use it. Unfortunately not all. My street "number", like 100,000 other houses near me, includes a letter in the middle. USPS will happily validate it correctly, but there are still websites I encounter from time to time that complain or refuse to work. Where I am, 100 years ago, if your house wasn't in…

If you don't mind, which metro area is this? I have an interest in street grids and address numbering systems; this just sounded like a peculiarity I'd like to read up on.

Based on your recent comments, it’s right in your own backyard! Formerly and currently unincorporated DuPage and Kane counties. It seems that you have to build a new street inside an established municipality for those houses to get “normal” addresses.

FYI, I went to college in the 90s with a kid that lived in a rural area in a very low population county in Indiana (one stop light in the entire county). His house still had the old rural route addressing (your address was the box where you received mail - potentially miles away - and not a street address as commonly understood https://pe.usps.com/text/pub28/28c2_021.htm).

Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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> That seems like a way to get a discrimination lawsuit I don't think names are a protected class, right? Regardless it is stupid, but I'm not sure if it on its own can be called anything else than lazy engineering.

Names are an attribute. Hijabs and turbans are not protected classes either, but religion is. In this case, one would argue nationality, probably, but I'm not sure what the strength of a lawsuit would be or on what basis.

guys... it's a name.

The victim can sue due to damages, but it's still just a name.

I believe there's someone running around with a first or last name of literally "null" who has problems regularly. They should absolutely be able to sue, but there's no way in hell someone is deliberately did that as a result of even neglectful discrimination. It's just poor engineering.

Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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I don't think the last name "Pot" is going to be clearly associated with any protected class. If they where banning all last names prefixed by "O'" or the name "Rousseau" that'd be a bit different.

Yeah, this is kind of the issue; I don't know if "Pot" is indicative of any clear nationality or heritage. Kind of a lacuna in the law--I think almost everyone in the country would agree this person has a legit grievance here, but not sure what the exact legal theory would be...

They would be required to make the victim whole based upon the harm endured.

Re: American Express: your last name is improper

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Why would "trust" not be allowed?

It's common to have bank accounts in the name of "The [name] Revocable Living Trust" for US estate planning purposes. Perhaps they're trying to catch those and require that credit cards be in the natural person's name only.
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