Open Source Visitor.js • Hacker News Board

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by cag_ii » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:03 AM UTC

alpb wrote: post #15

Gives 404?

the repository has been renamed. see session.js link in memnips comment.

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by grantjgordon » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:04 AM UTC

I don't think there are any ethical issues here. The paid service is doing something that was mostly, if not completely, available in other open source projects such as piwik and OWA in the first place. It's very educational to look at the differences in the way codejoust implemented his javascript vs. these other projects, and very convenient that you don't have to dig through a gigantor open source code base to do it.

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by codejoust » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:08 AM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #16

Flimm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, this implementation really should have a different name. It's confusing to have two competing implementations share the same name, and it may be a trademark violation.

>" and it may be a trademark violation. " "visitor.js" isn't distinct in the field, particularly as it's descriptive and of a common form, I'd warrant it's not novel either. That doesn't mean that you wouldn't be sued for using it just that any sane TM office shouldn't allow it to be registered and that a sane IP judge should dismiss a case brought against it's use as passing off. The law isn't sane of course .... I…

I believe the earlier comments have merit, thus I've renamed the library.

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by peteretep » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:13 AM UTC

I'm glad you've done this, because I'd have wasted a few hours on it I didn't have otherwise :-)

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by codejoust » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:25 AM UTC

bradly wrote: post #13

Here is a live demo showing your own information. http://visitorjs.herokuapp.com/ Fyi: I am not storing the information.

Official demo: http://codejoust.github.com/session.js/

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by necenzurat » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 1:28 AM UTC

after reading visitorjs.com thread i asked myself WHY

Question: who would pay 10 bucks a month for using a js file for 30K requests?

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by gojomo » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 2:12 AM UTC

The original visitor.js identified my city correctly; this only put me in the USA.

Is there a free reliable precise geolocation service that can take as many hits as a script like this could throw at it?

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by ibrahimcesar » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 2:21 AM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #27

The original visitor.js identified my city correctly; this only put me in the USA. Is there a free reliable precise geolocation service that can take as many hits as a script like this could throw at it?

Worked fine with me, here in Brazil.

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by desireco42 » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 2:35 AM UTC

The only thing that would make this better is to have it in coffeescript... :) which I might do for you if you don't.

Re: Open Source Visitor.js

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Post by josscrowcroft » Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 2:36 AM UTC

I'm super impressed you turned this out so quickly. I think that really sums up the spirit in the HN community...

When you look at something that seems overpriced (or wrongly-priced) and you say "hey, I bet I could do this"

I still see value in potentially paying for a service like this when it's a big enough pain-point. But I really think they'd have had more traction with a open-source-to-paid model, where anyone can use the client-side code for free, but the extra stats and support provided are worth paying for.