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Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.

This is a common misconception. AI is not copying anything. It is studying the images in a similar way that humans do. Entire size of the stable diffusion model is around 6gb, with pruning it goes down to 3gb. Training set is in terabytes. So it is common sense that no copying is done.

I think artists need to be fair about AI, is there any artist that created their style without ever studying other artists? That is high improbable because humans need to observe to create art. There is even a saying that "Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal".

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Reddit's weird setup where essentially random people who were first "own" entire categories (= subreddits) of discussion is totally absurd.

What do you think would be a better model? I have a hard time imagining one. It doesn't seem all that different to me than whoever is first to claim a company name, a domain name, or when we go back further in time, land.

IRC Network administrators tend to enforce "official" names (owned by a particular group) vs "unofficial" names. For example, "#Ubuntu" is owned by the Ubuntu devs. While the unofficial ##Ubuntu is just fan owned.

This already is a huge step forward compared to Reddit, where you aren't even sure which subreddits are owned by the corporation / official groups, or if they're "fan run". Are you sure /r/Ubuntu is a fan-run subreddit, or does it have official Ubuntu communications?

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not absurd, it's reddit's killer feature and the primary reason that reddit is as big as it is.

I would argue that “killer feature” killed its potential to be much bigger and more profitable than it is.

How much bigger could it possibly be?

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Reddit's weird setup where essentially random people who were first "own" entire categories (= subreddits) of discussion is totally absurd.

What do you think would be a better model? I have a hard time imagining one. It doesn't seem all that different to me than whoever is first to claim a company name, a domain name, or when we go back further in time, land.

After a subreddit reaches a certain size voting tokens should be used to elect officials to run the subreddit.

Quadratic voting with your vote ratio being a derivative of your activity on the subreddit to mitigate bot voting, et cetera.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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I agree with the moderator, AI will push artists to their limits and force them to become creative which is the most important skill of an artist. Technicality isn't enough nowadays, doesn't matter if you can paint like Raphael, you need to be creative like Picasso or Dali.

> Technicality isn't enough nowadays When was it ever like that for artists? Most complex music to perform doesn't mean it's the "best", neither is it like that for art. As an example from visual art, abstract art is sometimes very simple, yet have a profound impact on people, and it was never about being "technical", "complex" or "hard to reproduce".

Technicality was everything in painting before the advent of the photograph.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Safari telling me the SSL cert for this site is not trusted. Perhaps only appropriate for "the tech deviant dot com".

Seems like a normal let's encrypt cert to me.

Seems like parent is having their TLS certificate to thetechdeviant.com intercepted and the browser is having none of that.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think would be a better model? I have a hard time imagining one. It doesn't seem all that different to me than whoever is first to claim a company name, a domain name, or when we go back further in time, land.

After a subreddit reaches a certain size voting tokens should be used to elect officials to run the subreddit. Quadratic voting with your vote ratio being a derivative of your activity on the subreddit to mitigate bot voting, et cetera.

No. Reddit has too many bot accounts. There's no way to enforce one-vote per real life person.
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