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Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Greenhouses and vertical farms would make the famine less severe; although our population is so high that it would get complicated fast

Microgreens and winter tomatoes aren't going to stave off famine.

Yeah vertical farming/hydroponics only gets you a very limited set of vegatables.

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I’m amazed by the amount of historical information held in ice. Activities from silver mining to volcanic eruptions thousands of years ago can be found as chemical traces in the cores.

There’s just a few years where this kind of research will be possible. I hope we can maximize our discoveries before the world loses most of its ice.

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*in Europe and Asia.

I kind of weep for the loss of oral and comprehensible physical histories in the Americas and Africa, since scholarship like this shows that one can combine those with unlikely natural records and scientific analysis to triangulate on remarkable narratives about our past.

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I hear 1348 wasn't too great either.

"By June 24 – The Black Death pandemic has reached England,[1] having probably been brought across the English Channel by fleas on rats aboard a ship from Gascony to the south coast port of Melcombe (modern-day Weymouth, Dorset);[2][3] by November it will have reached London and by 1350 will have killed one third to a half of its population."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1348

Dying of respiratory or cardiac failure is horrifying enough, I just hope we never experience something like the plague on a large scale again.

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Because gradually injecting sulfur is the same as massive uncontrolled natural injections, right?

Who knows? Nobody, especially on a global scale, which is what they're suggesting.

We have natural experiments where sulfur aerosols were injected. The 1991 eruption of Mt. Pinatubo, for example. It injected 17 megatonnes of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, causing a global cooling of 0.4 C and a northern hemisphere cooling of 0.5-0.6 C. This also affected ozone, which suggests aerosols other than sulfuric acid droplets might be a better idea.

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And nothing prevents new volcanic explosions from doing this again. How would the northern world deal with this today? Not that well.

It might be even more bleak because we have 100X the population. I live near San Francisco and yesterday it rained more than usual which resulted in some highways literally shutting down and hours long traffic diversions. I have pretty low faith in us.

Coordination of governing bodies at the regional level is really bad in the US. A different agency manages the highways than the roadways than the waterways, each having their own incentives and budgets.

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And nothing prevents new volcanic explosions from doing this again. How would the northern world deal with this today? Not that well.

We have electricity and insulation. We won’t starve. Will it suck? Absolutely.

Yes, but our economy is flexible, demand for commodities will fluctuate widely shortly after any catastrophic event, having a likely negative cascading effect on the rest of the economy.

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How many of these vertical farms do we have? How long do they take to build? What do they cost to run?

A global response on the scale of Covid to build vertical farms would reduce the severity of the famine dramatically. It would be expensive, but the alternative would be burning cities and food riots. I can hardly imagine the USA avoiding a civil war considering how divisive and hostile things already have gotten You can get hydroponics going fairly quickly, the bottleneck would be the supplies and supply chain — mat…

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