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Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by pseudo0 »

nvr219 wrote: post #15
eternalban wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are we pussy footing around this? This affair has all the hallmarks of a state level blackmail operation run by CIA and Mossad. ("law enforcement" is a rather amusing label for spook agencies.)

How's Mossad involved? I'd think MI6 maybe.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who was a suspected Mossad spy. Per Wikipedia:

> The Foreign Office suspected that Maxwell was a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[52] Six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence services attended Maxwell's funeral in Israel, while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogised him and stated: "He has done more for Israel than can today be told."[53]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by ummonk »

jchw wrote: post #13
mensetmanusman wrote: post #5

Did Epstein kill himself?

Looking at the actual facts behind it, it seems likely yes. It starts to make a lot more sense once you research the facility that it occurred in, the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Frankly, I don't really get the whole conspiracy anyways.

The fact that the nearest cameras happened to malfunction is certainly either an amusing coincidence or cause for suspicion. Given that he likely had blackmailable information on other powerful people (anybody who had visited him on his island and happened to partake), there are certainly people who would have the motive to arrange for something.

It's still likely he committed suicide but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by ksniwmidjd »

I don’t understand how Ghauline got charged with underage child prostitution but none of her clients did. Who did she traffick them to? Makes me think politicians at the very highest level like Prince Andrew in the UK and a bunch in the US. It’s funny that the sketches for the Madeline McCann kidnappers look an awful lot like the Podesta brothers - the same ones with the creepy nude art of children in their homes.

Also, can we just call it what it is - child prostitution?

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by [deleted] »

nvr219 wrote: post #15
eternalban wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are we pussy footing around this? This affair has all the hallmarks of a state level blackmail operation run by CIA and Mossad. ("law enforcement" is a rather amusing label for spook agencies.)

How's Mossad involved? I'd think MI6 maybe.

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Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by lazide »

dragonwriter wrote: post #9
mhalberstram wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of Prince Andrew [1], there was a private settlement with the victim with the strongest case. He did not (directly) admit guilt and got his case closed. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/15/nyregion/prince-andrew-vi... [1] edited from Prince Albert

> In the case of Prince Albert Prince Andrew; to my knowledge, no Prince Albert has been connected with Epstein. > there was a private settlement with the victim with the strongest case. In theory, a private settlement of civil charges does not protect against criminal charges arising from the same conduct.

If the private settlement includes a gag condition for the primary criminal witness….

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by cokeandpepsi »

iinnPP wrote: post #3

Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein?

some of the people in charge like screwing kids and were implicated in his crimes, it's not unprecedented look at the lengths the catholic chruch went to protect it's own

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by pclmulqdq »

dragonwriter wrote: post #7
iinnPP wrote: post #3

Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein?

> Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein? Given the probably reluctance of most victims to come forward, active concealment by (apparently) multiple large banks (Deutsche Bank was sued and settled with New York, and now JP Morgan by USVI), investigators getting proof beyond a reasonable doubt even if there aren’t powerful people with law enforcement connections with an int…

There's literally a black book with names in it, as well as flight records. There is plenty of evidence here to get started on a charge without the banks or victims cooperating.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by realusername »

jchw wrote: post #13
mensetmanusman wrote: post #5

Did Epstein kill himself?

Looking at the actual facts behind it, it seems likely yes. It starts to make a lot more sense once you research the facility that it occurred in, the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Frankly, I don't really get the whole conspiracy anyways.

Due to the amount of very high profile celebrities and politicians connected to this case, it's a real possibility somebody could have murdered him or pushed him to suicide, this is far from a normal case. Good luck finding any evidence either way though.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by mikeyouse »

idontwantthis wrote: post #20
jchw wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the actual facts behind it, it seems likely yes. It starts to make a lot more sense once you research the facility that it occurred in, the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Frankly, I don't really get the whole conspiracy anyways.

There are so many levels to the conspiracy that I think some conspiracy must have occurred. He was in a notoriously unsafe prison: the fact that that exists is a conspiracy on its own. the fact that he wasn’t under constant surveillance, the fact that he was given a dangerous cell mate.

None of that is remotely interesting to people with experience with prisons. There are tons of dangerous criminals and he was on suicide watch until he wasn’t, at which point he committed suicide. There aren’t enough resources to watch all of the prisoners all of the time, so he waited until he wasn’t being monitored and then committed suicide. Donald Trump ran the DOJ who controlled the BOP would be the only person who could have “arranged” anything and he was notoriously uninterested in details of things so just nothing else even plausibly makes sense from a conspiracy level.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Post by logicchains »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #4
iinnPP wrote: post #3

Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein?

application of law is politicized and protects status quo power

If you or me lie to Congress, we go to jail. If the head of the FBI lies to Congress about spying on Americans (as demonstrated by the Snowden revelations), nothing happens.
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