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Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by klyrs »

scohesc wrote: post #5
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #3

It's clear the only way to achieve progress in the world today is 'Name & Shame'. Hell, I've got better security for my email then I can get from Canadian Banks! I'm not surprised that Freedom Mobile is so lax. I've been a customer since they were originally called "Wind" (at the time it was the only company that my N900 would work with). The only thing that they had going for them over the competition was good price…

Canadian telecoms have to be one of the most oligopolous (is that a word?) set of companies in the country. Telus, Bell, Rogers all 'competing' with each other, each of them owning several 'budget/flank' brands so they can capture even more of the individual market segments. It reminds me of tool manufacturers like Black and Decker creating (absorbing/buying out) once reputable brands that capture individual market s…

As somebody who uses the 'budget/flank' brands, they always start cheap but they ratchet the prices up and the features down, so after 2-3 years of using one, I'm looking for the next brand to switch to.

Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by ec59cb1659 »

Nullificus wrote: post #20
ec59cb1659 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, but it doesn't really seem like Privacy or Competition is the right angle for this, they're luxuries after all, and it's not really relevant for those political maneuverings. Security is more important. The right actors could hack the entire financial system and more with these kinds of vulnerabilities, with targeted sim swaps. Take for example, the currently unfolding Twitter hack that puts 400m Twitter use…

I will reach out to CSE and CCTS when they open as well.

Thanks a lot for doing this!

Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by willhslade »

klyrs wrote: post #21
scohesc wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canadian telecoms have to be one of the most oligopolous (is that a word?) set of companies in the country. Telus, Bell, Rogers all 'competing' with each other, each of them owning several 'budget/flank' brands so they can capture even more of the individual market segments. It reminds me of tool manufacturers like Black and Decker creating (absorbing/buying out) once reputable brands that capture individual market s…

As somebody who uses the 'budget/flank' brands, they always start cheap but they ratchet the prices up and the features down, so after 2-3 years of using one, I'm looking for the next brand to switch to.

I'm no shill but Mirgin Vobile during Black Friday was actually competitive this year.

Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by TYMorningCoffee »

Nullificus wrote: post #18
TYMorningCoffee wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article it was not clear that the 2FA was the 5 digit pin. 10 guess every 10 minutes with an expectation that after 5000 guesses you'll have a correct guess is 3.4 days (500*10 minutes).

There's no timing limits but your own, the only limit I could note is 10 per code. You have to guess a lot, but you don't get stopped. There's also nothing you can do as a target, even if you know you're a target. Support cannot disable your account.

Ah wow, no pause after

As a comparison, banks' 2FA will get disabled after too many resets.

Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by BeefWellington »

908B64B197 wrote: post #6
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #3

It's clear the only way to achieve progress in the world today is 'Name & Shame'. Hell, I've got better security for my email then I can get from Canadian Banks! I'm not surprised that Freedom Mobile is so lax. I've been a customer since they were originally called "Wind" (at the time it was the only company that my N900 would work with). The only thing that they had going for them over the competition was good price…

> Hell, I've got better security for my email then I can get from Canadian Banks At this point why not switch to a US one? > I hate all Canadian telecommunications companies. Seems every thread about telecom ends up with a rant about Canadian providers. Why is the country so backward? They had Nortel and Blackberry not long ago.

    Seems every thread about telecom ends up with a rant about Canadian providers. Why is the country so backward? They had Nortel and Blackberry not long ago.
Of the major telecom providers, 3/4 of them control news media of various kinds (print, radio, television, streaming services). Politicians seem to bend the country over on behalf of these companies because if you say you're going to do anything else you get relentlessly attacked by the press. The telco regulator (CRTC) has had essentially former execs from one of the major telcos over the past thirty years except for a couple of people who actually tried to make changes.

The lowest telco rates in the country are in the one province that has a provincially-owned provider: Saskatchewan.

Previous governments at the federal and various provincial levels essentially de-incentivized a ton of tech investment that the country used to excel at. Nortel's story is one of espionage being their undoing and I'm not sure anyone could have done anything about that. Blackberry I think just represented a business unable to pivot fast enough when the tides shifted.

Re: Freedom Mobile's 4 digit password limit

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

willhslade wrote: post #23
klyrs wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As somebody who uses the 'budget/flank' brands, they always start cheap but they ratchet the prices up and the features down, so after 2-3 years of using one, I'm looking for the next brand to switch to.

I'm no shill but Mirgin Vobile during Black Friday was actually competitive this year.

What do you mean by competitive?

I haven't seen a plan at the less than 35$ except for public mobile at 25$ with 1gb. I come from Italy and at 5 you get 50 gb.

The pricing is just insane

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