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The Physics of baking good Pizza (2018)

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Re: The Physics of baking good Pizza (2018)

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Italian here! I don't think you're legally authorised to call that "pizza" (just joking, you are, but people might disagree). 1kg of flour for a single portion pizza seems very excessive.

It was divided in 8 chunks, so 125 gram of flour per pizza.

Or 206 g of dough ((1000 + 650) / 8) per pizza, not accounting for losses from evaporation and waste. That's a reasonable size, not large.

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Ok, what's the verdict on using pizza stones?

At my house we have this thing that's 8 ceramic tiles in an aluminum tray, that we got as a gift. The tiles have gradually cracked over ~ 20 years, but they still work. The rest of the family likes them better, they transfer heat to the bottom of the pizza quickly when it goes into the oven. You do have to figure out how to slide a pizza on and off of them. They "season" kind of like an iron pan -- we don't wash them…

Aluminum has low thermal mass but high heat conductivity. So the heat transfer to the pizza would be fast, which is good, but there wouldn't be a lot of it unless you had a really thick chunk of aluminum.

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Ok, what's the verdict on using pizza stones?

At my house we have this thing that's 8 ceramic tiles in an aluminum tray, that we got as a gift. The tiles have gradually cracked over ~ 20 years, but they still work. The rest of the family likes them better, they transfer heat to the bottom of the pizza quickly when it goes into the oven. You do have to figure out how to slide a pizza on and off of them. They "season" kind of like an iron pan -- we don't wash them…

Aluminum would not be good. It’s too thermally conductive, so it isn’t a good “heat capacitor” the way brick or steel are

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There are some great videos on youtube about how people hack their oven's auto clean mode in order to get the temperature up for the purposes of making a killer pizza. The auto clean, blasts the oven at a high temperature, but when it's engaged it locks the door so you can't open it. People rig the toggle so that they can get the higher temperature and still be able to open the oven to put the pizza in. This lets folks achieve high temperatures closer to that of a brick oven (but not quite that high).

Re: The Physics of baking good Pizza (2018)

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In their testing of multiple models, America's Test Kitchen found that stones are fine, but steels seem to get better results because the metal transfers heat into the dough faster: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2jmvqHVBpQ

> steels seem to get better results In a multi-purpose electrical kitchen oven, sure. In a hotter, dedicated gas pizza oven such as a Ooni or Roccbox, the supplied ceramic stone works perfectly, and a steel would cook too fast.

Yes. When we first got our baking steel I tried putting it on our outdoor gas grill as it can get up a bit over 700F. Let that thing heat up for a good hour, put the pizza on the steel and nearly burned myself from the steam that came off. Result was a charred bottom crust and raw top crust. Granted part of that was because the grill itself doesn't heat from the top as well as a real oven.

Now we use the steel only in the oven, which gets up to about 525-550F, and our outdoor Ooni.

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The paper recommends against baking pizza on steel because this would cook the pizza too fast, but this is only true at the temperatures of pizza-specific ovens (paper says 620F / 325C). If you're trying to cook a pizza at home in an oven that only goes up to 550F / 290C the steel helps a lot to make up for the oven not being quite hot enough. (I use a pizza stone, though, mostly because that's what I already have)

Yup, bake my pizzas on a 44W slab and they come out perfect.

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Pizza is one of my standard food items. E.g., I get bread and pizza flour in 25 pound bags from Sam's Club. Each batch of dough uses 650 ml water, 1 tablespoon of Fleischmann's active dry yeast, 1 tablespoon of salt, and 1 kilogram of the flour. I end up with 8 chunks of pizza dough. So, each chunk of dough is good for one pizza for one. No way do I want to try to compete with the artistry of brown spots from 600+ F…

Italian here! I don't think you're legally authorised to call that "pizza" (just joking, you are, but people might disagree). 1kg of flour for a single portion pizza seems very excessive.

Italian???

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Re: The Physics of baking good Pizza (2018)

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The paper recommends against baking pizza on steel because this would cook the pizza too fast, but this is only true at the temperatures of pizza-specific ovens (paper says 620F / 325C). If you're trying to cook a pizza at home in an oven that only goes up to 550F / 290C the steel helps a lot to make up for the oven not being quite hot enough. (I use a pizza stone, though, mostly because that's what I already have)

Yup, bake my pizzas on a 44W slab and they come out perfect.

> 44W slab

44 Watts?

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