HN downranks threads with many comments, that is the main thing. Think of each comment as a downvote and it makes more sense why those quickly disappears from the frontpage.
We can't downvote submissions, but we can flag them, which is way more punishing in the algorithm, and it's why they disappear from the front page so quickly, despite being highly up voted.
Ask HN: Why are the Elon Musk topic submissions being suppressed?
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
We can't downvote submissions, but we can flag them, which is way more punishing in the algorithm, and it's why they disappear from the front page so quickly, despite being highly up voted.
I don't think it's flags, it's the high comments-to-votes ratio that pushes a thread down in the ranking.
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#24If we're going to gauge how thought-provoking a topic is by how wealthy the main character is, might as well flood HN with submissions about what the Kardashians had for breakfast or how often Bill Gates uses the toilet or whatever. It's the same thing as following Musk's car crash behavior.
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#25I'm seeing a lot of Musk posts, but they're mostly negative. I'm just saying, I visit dozens of online aggregators, and I've yet to come across one that is "balanced". It's almost impossible at this point. The polarization is real.
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#26Sorry but we don't need to discuss every little shitty thing that happens three times per day just because you missed the thread with hundreds of replies when it was on the frontpage.
If you know more than other people (e.g. about how HN works—but it applies to anything), the thing to do is to share some of what you know so the rest of us can learn. What you said about the front page and using HN Search is true, but it's not good to deliver good information with poison.
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#27HN is owned by YCombinator. They must not annoy their (potential) business partners.
You've been breaking the site guidelines badly, in exactly the way we banned https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=trasz for:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265609 (Oct 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265508 (Oct 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33254262 (Oct 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33013513 (Sept 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33005522 (Sept 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 (July 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29916978 (Jan 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29687837 (Dec 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27751799 (July 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578442 (June 2020)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578435 (June 2020)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578417 (June 2020)
When we ban an account and someone immediately creates a new account to carry on in the same way, obviously we have to ban that one too. Therefore I've banned this one too.
Making sinister-vague criticisms of HN/YC doesn't change this, even though people love to do it because then they get to say "aha! see what they do to critics?!!". Similarly, pre-posting excuses in your profile ("Soon to be banned for pointing out that HN condones racism"!!) doesn't change this, even though people love to do that too because then they get to say "see? just as I predicted!"
Obviously we can't be influenced by that kind of thing because if we let any of them work, it would be a license to break HN's rules with impunity. Fortunately the community is fair-minded and can look through comment histories to decide for themselves whether an account was breaking the rules. Your accounts have been breaking the rules so badly that (a) I don't think we have a choice, and (b) I'm not worried about the community verdict.
Btw, I don't want to ban you at all and would be much happier to persuade you to just contribute to HN in a positive way, despite how limited and annoying it is. Believe me, I'm frustrated by its limitations too. I can't help but imagine that if we could sit down and actually talk about all this, it would not be so hard to agree.
It's true that a lot of things that you don't like about HN (or Americans, or religious people, or racists, or any of the other groups that you've posted flamewar comments about) do actually exist. But in HN's case at least, it's not true that they have the weight that you ascribe to them. Rather, they exist as part of a statistical cloud, and there are a lot of things in that cloud, some of them are bad and distasteful and all of them show up here. It's an inevitable dynamic that we're all trying to deal with. There's no agenda to propagate those things.
Unfortunately we can't sit down and talk because we're limited to exchanging tiny text blobs through small internet pipes like prisoners passing notes through a crack in a cell wall. So I don't suppose I have much chance of persuading you, though I'd certainly like to try.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use the search function [0] [1]. Not even 12 hours old threads with combined over 1300 comments and that's not enough for you on HN? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34008064 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34008383
And none of them is on the front side, despite the upvotes.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
And none of them is on the front side, despite the upvotes.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34008383 was on the front page for over 6 hours. We turned off the flags on it for a while to allow for that.
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#30Mods desperately trying to avoid becoming Reddit. The change is inevitable though, the quality and variation of comments are in line with Reddit already.
I plead the Fontenelle defense: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...