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Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

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Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

z-wave is kind of competing with zigbee for low power mid-range wireless standard for smart home or smart building since like 20 years ago? then we have low power bluetooth and low-power wifi joined the party. z-wave was proprietary which did not help its deployments, but still I recall it was the most deployed low power wireless devices for IoT. I worked on zigbee and never liked it. I wish z-wave was more open back…

> general feeling is that zigbee did not take off Z-Wave's primary advantage is, ironically, the openness of the ecosystem. Due to the lack of a stringent certification process Zigbee vendors can (and routinely do) lock devices to their proprietary hub. I'm guessing that is one main motivator for its failure. Though, keep in mind that Hue (one of the most successful IoT vendors) is all open Zigbee. Zigbee's main adva…

Yep, Z-Wave's advantage is that they enforce the standards. They require that an end device from one manufacturer can work with any other manufacturer's controller.

That was a bigger deal when controllers were stand-alone electronics products, though. Being in the cloud, a controller like SmartThings can add one-off support for non-standard end devices at any time, so there's less need for everything to be on one standard.

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

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Sounds like a last resort for popularity. The market for IoT RF standards is consolidating and Z-Wave doesn't seem to be among the winners.

as someone out of the loop on IoT standards in general, are there any central orgs pushing these standards? Are open standards winning at least?

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post #24

Sounds like a last resort for popularity. The market for IoT RF standards is consolidating and Z-Wave doesn't seem to be among the winners.

as someone out of the loop on IoT standards in general, are there any central orgs pushing these standards? Are open standards winning at least?

"Matter" has basically everyone:

https://csa-iot.org/members/

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

#26
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

z-wave is kind of competing with zigbee for low power mid-range wireless standard for smart home or smart building since like 20 years ago? then we have low power bluetooth and low-power wifi joined the party. z-wave was proprietary which did not help its deployments, but still I recall it was the most deployed low power wireless devices for IoT. I worked on zigbee and never liked it. I wish z-wave was more open back…

> general feeling is that zigbee did not take off Z-Wave's primary advantage is, ironically, the openness of the ecosystem. Due to the lack of a stringent certification process Zigbee vendors can (and routinely do) lock devices to their proprietary hub. I'm guessing that is one main motivator for its failure. Though, keep in mind that Hue (one of the most successful IoT vendors) is all open Zigbee. Zigbee's main adva…

thread is zigbee but more IPv6 friendly, they both run at 2.4Ghz like wifi and bluetooth do, which could be crowded and in short distance.

zwave by default is at 900Mhz so it goes much further than 2.4Ghz and it even has a long-range version(for a few km), that's another advantage of zwave.

all of them are low-power, all of them need a gateway or hub to talk to wifi and the internet, other than zwave is strictly co-operatable, zwave is also *much much* simpler, if zwave truly opens up, it could take over the competitors IMO.

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

#27

Sounds like a last resort for popularity. The market for IoT RF standards is consolidating and Z-Wave doesn't seem to be among the winners.

Some years ago when I was getting into this it looked to me like Z-Wave was winning. Did something happen?

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

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post #22

What is Z-Wave. Are there any competing IEEE 802 standards?

Z-wave uses lower frequencies compared to something like Matter so it you can use a lower power or get more range. One competing 802 standard is 802.11ah, or WiFi HaLoW which barely exists right now but should be the best thing available.

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

#29

Sounds like a last resort for popularity. The market for IoT RF standards is consolidating and Z-Wave doesn't seem to be among the winners.

The owner of Z-Wave is also a major contribute to Matter. I think they can work together.

See: https://z-wavealliance.org/matter-1-0-is-here-and-z-wave-is-...

Also: https://www.silabs.com/blog/bridging-non-matter-devices-to-a...

Re: Z-Wave Alliance Announces Z-Wave Source Code Project Now Open and Available

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post #27

Sounds like a last resort for popularity. The market for IoT RF standards is consolidating and Z-Wave doesn't seem to be among the winners.

Some years ago when I was getting into this it looked to me like Z-Wave was winning. Did something happen?

Z-Wave is definitely the better protocol (vs Zigbee), but Matter is partially based on Zigbee so everyone expects Z-Wave to lose.

I don't agree, I think Z-wave will work with Matter using bridging.

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