Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.
This is an update announcement on the company's blog. It's not the project's landing page.
PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
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#22This actually makes me sad :(
Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse.
It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to be a SMTP (e-mail) host. Everyone was supposed to run FTP and HTTP. Everyone got an equally routable (the link quality depends, of course) address, not some 3rd level NAT retail monstrosity. If you needed aggregation, you make search sites like Google (and AltaVista and others before it) and RSS to pull data from multiple sources and CACHE IT LOCALLY.
Of course I welcome projects like PeerTube, but I'd much rather go back to the original idea. No ISPs or Clouds, only Peers.
With Internet like water grid - a utility.
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#23Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.
This is an update announcement on the company's blog. It's not the project's landing page.
Neither the homepage of the company, the linked page to get the update, nor the top level https://joinpeertube.org/ contain any video.
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an update announcement on the company's blog. It's not the project's landing page.
Neither the homepage of the company, the linked page to get the update, nor the top level https://joinpeertube.org/ contain any video.
then what's this?
https://i.postimg.cc/vTHXhxFC/7089-F268-8-C2-A-4935-A280-841...
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#25Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.
This is an update announcement on the company's blog. It's not the project's landing page.
If even a household name like Apple puts a so called boilerplate at the bottom of their press releases [1] this reinforces that's a good practice.
[1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/12/apple-announces-bigge...
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#26This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…
You can perfectly run peertube at home.
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Neither the homepage of the company, the linked page to get the update, nor the top level https://joinpeertube.org/ contain any video.
then what's this? https://i.postimg.cc/vTHXhxFC/7089-F268-8-C2-A-4935-A280-841...
A below the fold, secondary tab that contains a link to a separate page with a video?
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#28I truly like PeerTube as a technology, however I still haven't managed to build even a minimal stock of PeerTube based content creators I'd enjoy to follow. On Youtube it's easy, there's much more high quality content about any topic imaginable than I ever could watch in my limited time on this planet, but on PeerTube instances I haven't found anything that made me come back to that particular creator. So my question…
Why? From your comment I get that you haven't checked into peertube in a while. There is tilvids.com that is slowly becoming the premier high quality peertube instance that is taking baby steps into being an educational instance. They will gladly host any creator if they align with their goals. Besides, if a cooking creator wants to roll their own instance, invite other cooking creators to join in, tilvids.com would…
TILvids looks quite well curated, seems to have some interesting content.
My main entrypoint is usually sepiasearch.org, where I'm looking for specific topics. And more often than not the results were a bit disappointing.
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#29This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…
> Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse.
The main problem aren't privileged actors like ISPs (although shit like asymmetric DSL or CGNAT definitely prevents people from self-hosting)... it is abuse and the complete unwillingness of almost everybody from private actors over governments to international organizations to put a fucking stop on it.
You open up a server on the Internet? Not even sixty seconds and the first Shodan or whatever using script-kiddies will attempt to hack you. And god forbid you run some popular software that can be sniffed like Drupal or Wordpress - you end up in Shodan just as well and will be automatedly exploited as soon as the CVE gives enough hints to people to write an exploit. You wish to send your own emails? You find yourself greylisted by almost everyone in their futile attempts to keep their users from spam. You wish to communicate with someone? Better read up on crypto because governments and ISPs just love to mine data. Operate a service that allows user-generated content? Beware for a deluge of everything from warez groups to CSAM spreaders that can and will expose you to serious legal liability.
The old protocols were all designed with implicit trust in mind and the assumption that no actor on the internet would abuse their position. That worked reasonably well as long as it was only universities (but even then, first viruses appeared from enterprising prankster students)... but once the Internet got mainstream, all of that broke down, and it completely collapsed once people started realizing they might make money shilling grey-imported penile enlargement pills. And the more people were on the Internet, the harder the work of "abuse departments" got, which led to most organizations simply dismantling the department or redirecting complaints to /dev/null. The fact that some governments (particularly China and Russia) take a completely blind eye towards hacking originating from their countries as long as they themselves aren't targeted (just look how many malware samples have a dead-man switch when they encounter information that the target might be Russian) just makes the problem worse.
Unfortunately, by that time the old protocols and standards were so widespread in use there was no chance to replace them, and so layers upon layers upon layers of bullshit got placed over the old layers in the end.
Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting
#30This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…
Wait, what exactly makes you sad about PeerTube ?
Also, how would you connect to the Internet without an ISP ? (Well there are mesh networks I guess, but AFAIK they are much slower, both in throughput and latency ?)