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Re: What powers artists who reach old age? The work

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"The creative adult is the child who survived." - Ursula K. Le Guin

She didn't say that apparently [1]. However, as a creative person, the sentiment resonates with me. There is definitely an element of child-like play to the creative process. [1] https://genpubbranding.com/quotation-mark-up-creativity-and-...

Ironically, the article falsely quotes Einstein at the end.

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Thanks for the correction and fantastic resource. I still resonate with the less-reductive sentiment of the quote; among friends in fields with little relation to their personal interests, I'm (un?)fortunate to have willed my way from childhood robot toys into a PhD in robotics. That childlike creativity is a useful asset to get unstuck. Won't be quoting it again though.

It hurt me a little bit to read what she had to say, but I don't think she detracts from your sentiment at all. Retaining a childlike playfulness has helped me through career, marriage, parenting, a PhD (in roughly that order.) I joke that we're like onions, simply adding a new layer every year, getting to keep who we were before. Here are a couple of Einstein quotes on the matter: “People like you and me, though mor…

ChatGPT-based pithy quote generator incoming.

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That makes me think about David Bowie’s last album. I am pretty neutral on his previous creations. But his last album really resonates in me. And I wonder how you do feel when you have reached such a level of expertise, and are given an unknown amount of limited time to achieve your last creation.

Definitely the exact same artist/album pairing I thought of as well. It's an incredible album from someone who was already at the top of his game. He almost appears to be pulling beyond the limits of mortality by acknowledging it.

Re: What powers artists who reach old age? The work

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So this is not in regards to art, but instead with regards to building software. In my 40s I feel like my brain is finally working. Things which seemed extremely difficult a few years, I can now build with clarity and simplicity. People and political issues which seemed so difficult are now child's play. Consequently, the type of opportunities I am getting are very different from before, and much more interesting.

What have I lost - outside of my most favorite areas, my taste for theoretical CS which previously drove is completely gone. I'm now looking for work that is it's own reward.

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My mother is an artist by education, but she didn't pursue a career in art, and opted for being an artisan and practicing art in her spare time. She's now retired and is only occasionally asked to do some part time work. By her account now is the best time for actual creativity. There's no pressure to stand out and as a long time member of the artist association she can count on some space to show off her work should…

> "She also does sculpture because every painter eventually becomes a sculptor and every sculptor eventually becomes a painter." I've noticed this through various reading and art classes back at university, but I've never quite come across a reason why this tends to hold true across the two domains. Why do you think that is? Or, better yet, why does your mother think that is?

I called her specifically to ask this, so here goes:

It's part urban legend, part self-fulfilling prophecy and part other reasons, namely:

Sculpting is hard, manual labour. And expensive at that due to the sheer volume of the medium along with storage space requirements. Over time people simply get sick of dealing with the day to day hardships of this artform so they turn to something lighter - like painting.

Painters on the other hand get bored of exploring the limitations of their field - some of which, like avoiding the colour black, are akin to the tabs vs spaces debate in IT, so they try other forms.

Ultimately artists will eventually try every medium that catches their interest just like musicians try other instruments and sometimes even get good at them. Professionally they just stick to what they know.

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Also Warren Zevon’s last album. Keep Me In Your Heart For A While might be the perfect goodbye song.

Zevon's last album is titled "The Wind" and yeah it really does stand out! His last performance on Late Night w/ Letterman is also something to check out. Really lots of his material is interesting to check out, even the stuff that doesn't do it for me is still good to enjoy! I also love "Brainwashed" by George Harrison. Now I want to listen to the last Bowie album, assuming it was made in a similar context. It also…

I only learned about Zevon's letterman appearance a few weeks ago and watched that. Quite ... powerful, in a very low key way. Was never a huge WZ fan, but had friends who were always in to him - his work is making its way in to my rotation now.

Brainwashed very much seemed like a 'best of' from George. Creative, spiritual, humorous, polished (but still a bit of a 'raw' feeling, in some ways). All his skills and talent seemed to come together at the same time, if only for one last push.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She didn't say that apparently [1]. However, as a creative person, the sentiment resonates with me. There is definitely an element of child-like play to the creative process. [1] https://genpubbranding.com/quotation-mark-up-creativity-and-...

Ironically, the article falsely quotes Einstein at the end.

Maybe this is part of a 'blog quine' of correcting quotes then falsely quoting, ready for the next blog correction and fail ...

Re: What powers artists who reach old age? The work

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> "She also does sculpture because every painter eventually becomes a sculptor and every sculptor eventually becomes a painter." I've noticed this through various reading and art classes back at university, but I've never quite come across a reason why this tends to hold true across the two domains. Why do you think that is? Or, better yet, why does your mother think that is?

I called her specifically to ask this, so here goes: It's part urban legend, part self-fulfilling prophecy and part other reasons, namely: Sculpting is hard, manual labour. And expensive at that due to the sheer volume of the medium along with storage space requirements. Over time people simply get sick of dealing with the day to day hardships of this artform so they turn to something lighter - like painting. Painter…

Fascinating. Thank you so much for taking the time to connect with her and share her thoughts.

Re: What powers artists who reach old age? The work

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Zevon's last album is titled "The Wind" and yeah it really does stand out! His last performance on Late Night w/ Letterman is also something to check out. Really lots of his material is interesting to check out, even the stuff that doesn't do it for me is still good to enjoy! I also love "Brainwashed" by George Harrison. Now I want to listen to the last Bowie album, assuming it was made in a similar context. It also…

I only learned about Zevon's letterman appearance a few weeks ago and watched that. Quite ... powerful, in a very low key way. Was never a huge WZ fan, but had friends who were always in to him - his work is making its way in to my rotation now. Brainwashed very much seemed like a 'best of' from George. Creative, spiritual, humorous, polished (but still a bit of a 'raw' feeling, in some ways). All his skills and tale…

If you're looking for some interesting Zevon listens, there's a few YouTube videos from the early 80's that are quite good. He also has shows on archive.org which can be listened to.
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