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Re: Dallas midair tragedy: New videos show startling change in flight path of p-63

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Post by Rebelgecko »

fasthands9 wrote: post #10
dangle1 wrote: post #4

Well, if true, some drone operator now has a lifetime of painful guilt to look forward to.

Im having trouble seeing if there are clear rules around this type of thing. If so - I dont see how this shouldnt be tried criminally. Similar to how someone would be tried for driving a car through a pedestrian area and striking someone, even if they had not explicit intent to harm.

Don't you have to call the tower when you fly a drone within 5 miles of the airport? I can't imagine that the airport would've given the OK to someone flying so close to the runway.

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Post by maxbond »

leetrout wrote: post #8
aaron695 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't look like a drone. Although possible, war planes should not be as affected by strikes. Why do you think it's a drone?

Vouched for your comment. It looks like you are shadowbanned. You might want to send an email to HN.

Looking through their comments, it's pretty clear they know they're banned, why they're banned, spoke with dang about it at the time, and embraced being banned (I think because they feel it filters out low effort replies? Their statement was on the matter was terse, but semiparphrasing they said "I'm aiming for a shadowban" because "replies are the worst").

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Post by leetrout »

maxbond wrote: post #22
leetrout wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vouched for your comment. It looks like you are shadowbanned. You might want to send an email to HN.

Looking through their comments, it's pretty clear they know they're banned, why they're banned, spoke with dang about it at the time, and embraced being banned (I think because they feel it filters out low effort replies? Their statement was on the matter was terse, but semiparphrasing they said "I'm aiming for a shadowban" because "replies are the worst").

Oh OK, I didnt look in detail.

Re: Dallas midair tragedy: New videos show startling change in flight path of p-63

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Post by JCM9 »

fasthands9 wrote: post #10
dangle1 wrote: post #4

Well, if true, some drone operator now has a lifetime of painful guilt to look forward to.

Im having trouble seeing if there are clear rules around this type of thing. If so - I dont see how this shouldnt be tried criminally. Similar to how someone would be tried for driving a car through a pedestrian area and striking someone, even if they had not explicit intent to harm.

The airspace around the airshow was under a TFR (temporary flight restriction). It would have been highly illegal for anyone to fly a drone there.

Re: Dallas midair tragedy: New videos show startling change in flight path of p-63

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

someweirdperson wrote: post #17
Alupis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> war planes should not be as affected by strikes. There is nothing special about a war plane that makes it less affected by strikes of any kind, be from birds or drones alike.

A bullet-proof windshield protects the most vulnerable part (the pilot) a lot better than any civilian plane can.

Actually, I'd say the most vulnerable part for a strike in a single engine craft is the engine, which sits ahead of the cabin. At low altitudes there's precious little time to correct for any sort of engine failure.

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Post by fasthands9 »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #15
fasthands9 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im having trouble seeing if there are clear rules around this type of thing. If so - I dont see how this shouldnt be tried criminally. Similar to how someone would be tried for driving a car through a pedestrian area and striking someone, even if they had not explicit intent to harm.

They might have had a drone there with approval to cover the event too.

If you were flying the drone there in the approved space - you'd obviously know your drone was struck. Shouldnt that person have reported it immediately if they were being proper about following all guidelines?

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Post by someweirdperson »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #25
someweirdperson wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bullet-proof windshield protects the most vulnerable part (the pilot) a lot better than any civilian plane can.

Actually, I'd say the most vulnerable part for a strike in a single engine craft is the engine, which sits ahead of the cabin. At low altitudes there's precious little time to correct for any sort of engine failure.

There's zero time to fix a dead pilot in a plane with only one seat.

Re: Dallas midair tragedy: New videos show startling change in flight path of p-63

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Post by dylan604 »

fasthands9 wrote: post #26
tracerbulletx wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might have had a drone there with approval to cover the event too.

If you were flying the drone there in the approved space - you'd obviously know your drone was struck. Shouldnt that person have reported it immediately if they were being proper about following all guidelines?

Or as the promoter of the airshow permitting drones to be used, I'd be calling every single one of them in to show me their drone and all footage acquired during the event. Any one of them raising a stink about it, I'd be providing their contact information to the authorities.

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Post by thrill »

Alupis wrote: post #16
leetrout wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure which craft you are talking about flying. Hitting a drone is your worst nightmare while piloting small aircraft? Or hitting a plane is your worst nightmare when flying a drone?

> Hitting a drone is your worst nightmare while piloting small aircraft A small GA aircraft hitting a drone has a very high fatality chance, particularly in the stages of flight most likely to encounter amateur drone operators (ie. takeoff and landing).

No, it likely wouldn't have a large effect on the GA aircraft.
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