How do we prove we are human? A platform that can reliably prove that the user generated content it shows is human generated will have an edge. If I have a method of signing some content with my personal signature, I could still sign off on some generated content with it. I suspect there will be an arms race with ever more voight-kampff-like tests of humanness or something. If this doesn't work, I fear a lot of the web as we know it (the user-generated-content-filled Web2.0) is dead.
Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting
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#22"Eating your own shit is never healthy in the long run." However, putting someone else's shit in your butt seems to work wonders. Maybe we just need to replace the internet's AI queue with a stack?
Yes, your own shit is not really healthy, on the other hand, someone else's shit might be really beneficial. There is even a fancy scientific phrase for "eating other peoples shit" : Fecal Microbiome Transplant
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2021.5198...
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#23While the current speed of the AI research makes me quite uneasy, I cannot really dismiss what we are seeing as: >What we are witnessing is thus not "artificial creativity" but a simple "statistical mean of everything uploaded by humans on the internet which fits certain criteria". at least not more than I would my own brain. I don however fully expect a strong luddite-like backlash happening when this is going to be…
It’s weird how readily so many people will dismiss AI art as just being a product of its input, when that’s really all humans are as well. All artists (myself included) are just the ongoing product of various inspirations (inputs). Dali is a world-renowned artist, but his art wasn’t born in a bubble and ripped from the void. He studied and referenced artists before him, then changed it. Artists who saw his work later…
But at least artists have some agency, all that stuff that they ingested goes through them and are somewhat limited by human hardware. Very little is original indeed but that percentage may as well go down even more as more and more AI generated soup unleashed on the world.
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#24People really love to make predictions about technologies way too early. It’s been a year or two, tops, since this stuff has gone mainstream. I very much doubt that the consumer ecosystem will remain the same while content undergoes an AI-powered paradigm shift. We will most likely see a growth of curated sites that help weed out the nonsense, as has been typical for most new developments. And on that note, I think t…
Yeah, that happened, but who cares? It also allowed creative people to make stuff without needing a huge budget
Is it not too early to make predictions?
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#25In just the past couple of weeks, I've noticed lots of machine generated cooking recipes. They follow the typical SEO pandering blog format, where there's an unnecessary story about the author's trip somewhere or their child's school play being the inspiration for making this particular recipe, followed by the actual recipe details. The machine generated stories are even more pointless and meandering than what humans…
I think the problem you are describing is not only about AI, it is about trusting your sources of information. I can happen with content from humans.
Yes - AI moves this to another level of scale but Google’s need to sell ad placements created the environment for that to work. When they can’t even be troubled to de-rank blatant StackExchange/GitHub/Wikipedia scrapers it created a big opportunity for these low-quality content farms limited only by their ability to generate content on every topic.
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#26In just the past couple of weeks, I've noticed lots of machine generated cooking recipes. They follow the typical SEO pandering blog format, where there's an unnecessary story about the author's trip somewhere or their child's school play being the inspiration for making this particular recipe, followed by the actual recipe details. The machine generated stories are even more pointless and meandering than what humans…
I think the problem you are describing is not only about AI, it is about trusting your sources of information. I can happen with content from humans.
Except for the fact that it does so on an unprecide dented scale allowing small groups of people to do things without necessarily being caught allowing for far more effective ways of control. Even without it, it's hard to argue for the existence of online forums when hackernews is a classic example of why it doesn't work when the majority of the 'intellectuals' have an inflated belief and understanding on topics they have no basic understand on. It's so bad that none of the actual subject matter experts talk here besides ones with financial interests in the products themselves and the experts fearful of retribution. The irony is almost comedic.
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#27It's clear that we are currently dealing with a deluge of AI generated content that is overwhelming our ability to process and make sense of it all. This has led to a situation where we are essentially drowning in a sea of noise, making it increasingly difficult to separate the signal from the noise. This is a problem that we need to address, not just for our own sanity, but for the future of AI itself. If we continue to allow AI generated garbage to flood our feeds and clog up our systems, it will only serve to undermine the credibility and usefulness of AI in the long run. We need to take steps to better filter and manage this content, and to ensure that we are only consuming high-quality, useful information. This is a war that we are fighting, and we need to be prepared to do whatever it takes to win it.
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#28According to the author, chatGPT is generating
not "artificial creativity" but a simple "statistical mean of everything uploaded by humans on the internet which fits certain criteria".
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#29In just the past couple of weeks, I've noticed lots of machine generated cooking recipes. They follow the typical SEO pandering blog format, where there's an unnecessary story about the author's trip somewhere or their child's school play being the inspiration for making this particular recipe, followed by the actual recipe details. The machine generated stories are even more pointless and meandering than what humans…
I think the problem you are describing is not only about AI, it is about trusting your sources of information. I can happen with content from humans.
I have cookbooks, both physical and in digital formats, but it's usually faster to do a web search, especially when I mostly need cooking time and temperature. Perhaps this will motivate me to finally get around the setting up a local search function for my electronic cookbook collection as the web is going to be less and less trustworthy.
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#30What I really wonder is: is there a correlation between consumption of streaming tv series and positive attitude towards this "AI" wave? "statistical mean of everything uploaded by humans on the internet which fits certain criteria" applies to both ChatGPT/StableDiffusion and most movie series on streaming TV. My pet theory is that if you can stomach watching the same stories with different skins hundreds of times, y…
I’m 41 and I’m utterly baffled by my 24 year-old SO’s interest in binging an apparently infinite litany of TV shows from streaming services. I’ve watched the first six seasons of Game Of Thrones, the first season of Dark, all of The Expanse (reading the last book of the final trilogy now), His Dark Materials (because I read the books) and Andor. That’s it. I watched some Star Trek TNG & DS9 as a kid and was horrified…
You haven't seen The Wire?