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Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t say they were new to the game I said they probably aren’t looking super reliable all of a sudden. Things that tend to matter a lot in that world are credibility, stability and reliability. New information has come in via a very public set of car crashes and that relationship is now looking like a liability.

Could you elaborate for those of us who don’t typically follow space news? Has Space-X had some trouble recently?

He is saying spacex=tesla

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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Sooner or later the US Government will realize the Starship will be a good launching vehicle for the ballistic missile defense. Currently a midcourse ground base interceptor booster [1] weighs more than 20 tons, costs a few tens of millions, and carries one single kill vehicle [2] that weighs about 64 kg. A single Starship would be able to carry more than 1000 such kill vehicles. If Russia launches a few hundred miss…

It has to get off the ground first.

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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> Starlink already offers unparalleled end-to-end user data encryption. I don't understand this marketing. How would they possibly being doing E2E encryption? This is the wrong layer to be applying encryption at anyway.

Clearly they're using a different definition of end. All wireless and shared-media (DOCSIS, PON) protocols should be encrypted out of respect for customer metadata privacy.

Encryption should be at a higher layer, preferably from the end client to end the server, to provide any security. To be fair, the fact that the data is being transmitted wirelessly does mean that encryption is 100% required or else someone could easily spy on you.

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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Not exactly a name you want associated with anything to do with national security right now.

SpaceX has been launching Department of Defense payloads since 2006.

Actually SpaceX's first contract and the name 'Falcon' came from the DARPA Falcon Project

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Falcon_Project

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t say they were new to the game I said they probably aren’t looking super reliable all of a sudden. Things that tend to matter a lot in that world are credibility, stability and reliability. New information has come in via a very public set of car crashes and that relationship is now looking like a liability.

Could you elaborate for those of us who don’t typically follow space news? Has Space-X had some trouble recently?

I can’t tell if you’re being cute and trying to carve out some exemption here when it’s clear what I’m talking about I think but let’s operate on good faith.

The owner with an 80% voting control of the company has had some very serious issues in judgement lately not limited to the Twitter fiasco but has also made a number of public moves that were very friendly towards what the US has called their biggest national security threat repeatedly for the past half decade or longer.

In a national security context that would be generally thought of as a completely unacceptable amount of leverage for your main enemy to have over your national security infrastructure.

This isn’t some mindless Elon bashing post, I’m presenting this as an actual honest to god problem for natsec.

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t say they were new to the game I said they probably aren’t looking super reliable all of a sudden. Things that tend to matter a lot in that world are credibility, stability and reliability. New information has come in via a very public set of car crashes and that relationship is now looking like a liability.

Could you elaborate for those of us who don’t typically follow space news? Has Space-X had some trouble recently?

Musk has had some trouble recently, but I thought it was pretty well known that Shotwell pretty much runs the show at SpaceX & has for some time. I may be completely incorrect, but I think Musk is mostly just a mascot/figurehead/hype-man for SpaceX & has been for a bit. Regarding most of the day-day stuff that is, he probably still has some input on very long term matters.

But I think if Musk were to die in a mysterious Tesla fire tomorrow, not much would change for the worse at the company for quite some time.

Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities

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Sooner or later the US Government will realize the Starship will be a good launching vehicle for the ballistic missile defense. Currently a midcourse ground base interceptor booster [1] weighs more than 20 tons, costs a few tens of millions, and carries one single kill vehicle [2] that weighs about 64 kg. A single Starship would be able to carry more than 1000 such kill vehicles. If Russia launches a few hundred miss…

SpaceX already has contracts for a Missile Defense Shield (w/ SDA, now part of Space Force). Govt program was started by Mike Griffin-- one of the early founders of Strategic Defense Initiative, space kill vehicles, and SpaceX itself. His history with Elon is fascinating. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career

I thought SpaceX is just building thermal imaging satellites for tracking ballistic missiles, but agree it's obvious just the first step to orbital weapons for interception.

Yes that's the plan. Sounds like Biden Admin wasn't a fan of Star Wars and has been slowing Elon down.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities

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