I think the term has just faded from the hype cycle.
The Legacy of Peer-to-Peer Systems
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#23P2P still works great. Unfortunately the well has been poisoned for alot of people, as it's widely assumed that "torrenting" of any sort must be illegal, even if it's for perfectly legitimate purposes.
My understanding is that many people consider piracy illegal in the "corporations paid to make it illegal because it threatened their business model" sense
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#24I think part of what has happened to decentralized internet systems is technological, and part of it is terminology. It seems like we still have decentralized systems but now call them fediverse, distributed, decentralized, federated, ipfs, web 3.0, etc.. It might have been interesting if he'd looked at searches for those terms as well.
Because at some point you need to deal with trolls/spammers at the gates
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#25What happened to peer-to-peer as a technological concept? Actually, we still use a lot of that technology.
Years ago, most computing devices were desktops. They often had a routable IP address, unlimited power, and would happily sit passing packets all day. This made things like a DHT practical, so you could find your other peers. This made things like the early days of skype where except for auth, chat and file sharing was p2p. After being online for long enough and having a routable IP, you could become a supernode to h…
> One solution to this is to add a "superpeer" to a router distribution like OpenWRT, or sell the "plug/wallwart" to help. That way a cheap (under $100) computer could build reputation with it's peers, accept incoming packets form new peers, provide some storage, and keep up with DHT maintenance.
...and do what exactly ? Don't have CPU power to do much, dont have storage to serve anything.
Also the same problems of "how do I exactly connect thru NAT" home router in same way, some of them might have IPv6 directly, but most are still behind some carrier grade NAT just like the phones are.
But I do like idea of evolving router a bit. Stuff like home automation should ideally just talk to MQTT queue on a router and then user is free to either install automation using it somewhere on the network, connect directly from phone, install container on the router running HomeAssistant or something, or pay some cloud service to ingest the MQTT stream and give them nice UI for it.
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#26P2P still works great. Unfortunately the well has been poisoned for alot of people, as it's widely assumed that "torrenting" of any sort must be illegal, even if it's for perfectly legitimate purposes.
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#27https://github.com/prettydiff/share-file-systems
The application concept is difficult to explain so I have started calling it an operating system as the application is getting larger.
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#29ELI5, why can’t we have a combination of modern P2P like WebRTC and onion routing to anonymize source and destinations?
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#30P2P still works great. Unfortunately the well has been poisoned for alot of people, as it's widely assumed that "torrenting" of any sort must be illegal, even if it's for perfectly legitimate purposes.
Yeah, you might argue that some bad actors took advantage of the tech and turned it into the endless of darkness. But I think, the fundamental reason here is simply lack of creativity.
You give people a protocol that is really good at distributing (large) files, guess how they going to use it? The cheapest use cases comes on top, of course. Make something both productive and beneficial is hard man!