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Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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The things that made me feel older than anything was: When they recorded the audio clip for their webpage, they used Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy" as the background audio. I still love that tune. Of course, they couldn't get away with using that now without proper licensing.

The BBC has a unique exception when it comes to music, I believe. That’s why you often hear The Beatles in the Eastenders cafe. ITV couldn’t do that.

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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Little period details: - strobing CRT monitors that don't line up with the frequency of the TV camera - PCs in the internet cafe, Macs in media, Acorn Archimedes (with ARM processor!) in schools - first thing to do with the global communications network is send a dumb message to the US President - indexed-color images; you can see in one case when she changes windows and the colours go wrong in the background as the…

> - first thing to do with the global communications network is send a dumb message to the US President

For me that also was about the first website I visited back around that time when I had friends over, who didn't know Internet to show how easy you can get there from Europe.

Second stop was the local city councils page, and checking why my physics teacher was supporting for proposals as counselor.

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #13

This must be some kind of fake history, where are all the ads on the web sites? Where are the pages jumping around as the browser reflows the content? Why are there no auto playing videos? Next you will be telling me nobody used their real names on the Internet in those days. Definitely fake.

I know it’s sarcasm but the thought of a small 64x64 video auto-playing at 0.25fps is hilarious to me.

Oh, RealVideo had you covered.

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #6

For people who weren’t kids in the UK, Blue Peter is a very long running weekly BBC TV programme aimed at kids. Common tropes include the studio pet(s) and garden, charity events, and the Blue Peter badge that you got for sending in a letter with a tip or other challenges (and which qualified you for various discounts at venues around the UK). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Peter

> very long running Since 1958 and over 5,000 episodes! (so much of classic UK TV is either "has been broadcasting since the dawn of television in a largely unchanged format" or the other extreme of "we only ever made six episodes back in the 1970s and they are etched across everyone's childhood")

> "we only ever made six episodes back in the 1970s and they are etched across everyone's childhood"

Or alternatively sometimes scarred for life :)

And if taking a trip back through 1970's UK TV is something anyone's interested in then this is a fun book:

https://www.lulu.com/shop/stephen-brotherstone-dave-lawrence...

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #21

The things that made me feel older than anything was: When they recorded the audio clip for their webpage, they used Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy" as the background audio. I still love that tune. Of course, they couldn't get away with using that now without proper licensing.

The BBC has a unique exception when it comes to music, I believe. That’s why you often hear The Beatles in the Eastenders cafe. ITV couldn’t do that.

Don't know if that is true.

https://www.bbc.com/academy-guides/music-copyright-in-tv-wha...

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #4

Little period details: - strobing CRT monitors that don't line up with the frequency of the TV camera - PCs in the internet cafe, Macs in media, Acorn Archimedes (with ARM processor!) in schools - first thing to do with the global communications network is send a dumb message to the US President - indexed-color images; you can see in one case when she changes windows and the colours go wrong in the background as the…

I wonder if the ‘linking schools to the internet’ was more about the rollout of the .sch.uk domain name than about actual physical internet connectivity. In 1995 ‘getting on the internet’ was still largely a case of dial up to an ISP, and while schools in general probably had a PBX system on an ISDN, turning those into ‘internet’ was not just a case of enabling a data plan.

And then on the school end, they might have had a lab of computers, but 1) probably Acorn Archimedes at best and 2) probably on an econet rather than Ethernet LAN if networked at all; so getting those computers ‘linked up’ to the internet was going to be tricky.

So your ‘linked to the internet’ school would more likely be one PC in an office on dialup to an ISP for email.

Or maybe a simple webpage hosted by a friendly local university?

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #21

The things that made me feel older than anything was: When they recorded the audio clip for their webpage, they used Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy" as the background audio. I still love that tune. Of course, they couldn't get away with using that now without proper licensing.

The BBC has a unique exception when it comes to music, I believe. That’s why you often hear The Beatles in the Eastenders cafe. ITV couldn’t do that.

> ITV couldn’t do that.

Yes they can, all they need to do is stump up for the licenses the same as the BBC do via organisations such as the PRS:

https://www.prsformusic.com/

https://www.prsformusic.com/licences/broadcasting-music-on-t...

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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I was watching a video of the BBC show Micro Live explaining how email works...in 1986! And it was done live. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL1NaenGPdw

Did you notice that at the start the acoustic coupler has the handset placed the wrong way round?

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #21

The things that made me feel older than anything was: When they recorded the audio clip for their webpage, they used Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy" as the background audio. I still love that tune. Of course, they couldn't get away with using that now without proper licensing.

The BBC has a unique exception when it comes to music, I believe. That’s why you often hear The Beatles in the Eastenders cafe. ITV couldn’t do that.

They have a blanket licence agreements with PRS and similar organisations. IIRC is only covers using some number of seconds of any given track, and to use an entire piece (or larger part there-of) separate permission must be requested (and perhaps paid for).

Re: Blue Peter discovers the Internet (1995) [video]

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post #6

For people who weren’t kids in the UK, Blue Peter is a very long running weekly BBC TV programme aimed at kids. Common tropes include the studio pet(s) and garden, charity events, and the Blue Peter badge that you got for sending in a letter with a tip or other challenges (and which qualified you for various discounts at venues around the UK). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Peter

> very long running Since 1958 and over 5,000 episodes! (so much of classic UK TV is either "has been broadcasting since the dawn of television in a largely unchanged format" or the other extreme of "we only ever made six episodes back in the 1970s and they are etched across everyone's childhood")

It blew my mind when, as an adult, I learned that there were only 15 episodes of Mr Bean (with one of those being a "Best Bits of Mr Bean" episode!).
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