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Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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As of late, Seagate drives have been pretty crappy, which is a real shame given their former glory. Maybe this purchase will change something.

Storage professional here. Disk drives failure rate is usually 0.5 to 3% a year. Drives do fail, so you can't draw any statistical significant figures from the failure of a couple of drives among a total of four or five (or even ten or twenty). However my company's selling drives by the thousands, and here's what I can say: Seagate barraccuda are the worst pieces of crap being sold since the infamous IBM 80GB debacle…

Cool! Do you have any numbers for SSDs?

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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$1.4 billion, mates. $1.4 billion for a business with manufacturing plants, complicated global logistics... Now let me remind you that Facebook is valued 85 (!) times more.. o_O

Stock market valuations are almost useless... unless you work with stocks.

If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost and another web site would take its place.

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #17

$1.4 billion, mates. $1.4 billion for a business with manufacturing plants, complicated global logistics... Now let me remind you that Facebook is valued 85 (!) times more.. o_O

Stock market valuations are almost useless... unless you work with stocks. If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost and another web site would take its place.

Not really, what disappears is the Facebook "potential" to make money, and the valuation is done thinking at this possibility. Now if you look at it in this way, billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions.

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Storage professional here. Disk drives failure rate is usually 0.5 to 3% a year. Drives do fail, so you can't draw any statistical significant figures from the failure of a couple of drives among a total of four or five (or even ten or twenty). However my company's selling drives by the thousands, and here's what I can say: Seagate barraccuda are the worst pieces of crap being sold since the infamous IBM 80GB debacle…

Cool! Do you have any numbers for SSDs?

Unfortunately I didn't set up as many of these, but the first generation of SLC SSD were quite prone to failure; The latest SSD with Sanforce 12xx controllers seem to work very well. I had no failure on these yet, though I had some trouble with older designs.

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stock market valuations are almost useless... unless you work with stocks. If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost and another web site would take its place.

Not really, what disappears is the Facebook "potential" to make money, and the valuation is done thinking at this possibility. Now if you look at it in this way, billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions.

What amazes me is that people actually think this is the right way to look at things...

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #27
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, what disappears is the Facebook "potential" to make money, and the valuation is done thinking at this possibility. Now if you look at it in this way, billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions.

What amazes me is that people actually think this is the right way to look at things...

Its the market...

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #23
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stock market valuations are almost useless... unless you work with stocks. If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost and another web site would take its place.

Not really, what disappears is the Facebook "potential" to make money, and the valuation is done thinking at this possibility. Now if you look at it in this way, billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions.

That potential will be translated in quarter results sooner or later. I think the gap expressed in potential and real stock value between customizers who use your product and non paying users who consume your product is too big nowadays and will be narrowed abruptly.

Re: Samsung Sold its Hard Drive Business to Seagate for $1.4 Billion

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stock market valuations are almost useless... unless you work with stocks. If Facebook disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost and another web site would take its place.

Not really, what disappears is the Facebook "potential" to make money, and the valuation is done thinking at this possibility. Now if you look at it in this way, billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions.

"""billions of people using Facebook can be monetized probably much better in the long run compared to selling a new HD from time to time to millions."""

As if this has worked well in the past for other hyper-valued web crap...

(Which reminds me, anybody remembers that ole VA Linux company? Where are they now?)

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