If I were to switch to an android phone would a better factory get more business?
The $205.4B Gulag
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#22I am making a concerted effort in my life to avoid buying things made in China. It’s harder than it sounds, and in the case of consumer electronics, impossible. If the point of this article is to make the reader feel bad for buying an iPhone, they’ve failed. Nearly every electronics device sold in the US is made or assembled in China, and most under even worse conditions than FoxConn.
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#23I guess for me the takeaway is: Buy fewer electronics
That's is extremely unpopular with the general public, much less here on HN.
Ask people to reduce their consumption and they have a tendency to lash out.
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#24I'd like to remind people about the terrible working conditions in extremely wealthy places such as California too. Right now, University of California grad students and researchers, who produce a massive proportion of science on the West coast, are on strike. In most locations, it's nearly impossible to pay rent on their stipends. Grad students may be in training, but they are also the source of nearly all the novel…
Comparing factory workers anywhere to grad students in California is remarkable. Grad students endure the conditions voluntarily. They would have tons of alternative options in the private sector if they chose to do that.
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#25I guess for me the takeaway is: Buy fewer electronics
Buy less, period.
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#26I am making a concerted effort in my life to avoid buying things made in China. It’s harder than it sounds, and in the case of consumer electronics, impossible. If the point of this article is to make the reader feel bad for buying an iPhone, they’ve failed. Nearly every electronics device sold in the US is made or assembled in China, and most under even worse conditions than FoxConn.
The best you can do, I think, is to make sure to support Taiwanese brands as much as possible, as opposed to direct Chinese brands. Asus, Acer, Gigabyte are a few of them. Yes, they're still quite intermingled with the mainland, but it's better than nothing!
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#27If employees hate their job so much, can't they just quit?
If you’re unhappy with your pay, just start a hedge fund.
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#28If employees hate their job so much, can't they just quit?
Many of them have been locked into the factories because of "Corona restrictions" which is just a bad excuse to exploit them.
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#29I'd like to remind people about the terrible working conditions in extremely wealthy places such as California too. Right now, University of California grad students and researchers, who produce a massive proportion of science on the West coast, are on strike. In most locations, it's nearly impossible to pay rent on their stipends. Grad students may be in training, but they are also the source of nearly all the novel…
What kind of standards are we talking? Can't afford 25th percentile studio apartment in the region? Can't rent and walk to work?
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#30I switched to iphone from android very recently and I do feel bad about it.
Apple is moving their iPhone production to India, so you supported that in some way, perhaps.
Dunno if their factories will be any less gulags, but given what kind of a place China is, perhaps they are.