This "Directory Services Identifier" is not sent outside of Apple's services though right? And only sent to Apple services that need to know the identity of the user?
If so I'm wondering what the issue is here.
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#23Good to see somebody talking sense. Lots of journalists jumped on this, framing Apple as evil. At a high level, the whole thing is no different to a website using a cookie to keep you logged in.
A cookie is not a PII identifier, it is an "identity discriminator". In other words cookies let them tell you the _same_ person 104898 that was already here in March, welcome back!, and not any other person e.g. 298472, but without telling them your actual name etc. In contrast, a PII identifier is a unique ID that is linked to personal attributes in real life like a person's name ("John Doe"), address ("6400 Bouleva…
PII is never black or white. "_same_ person 104898" will become PII at any moment when the site can collate it on a one-to-one mapping with some other PII of yours (e.g. your email or login).
From GDPR Recital 30: "Natural persons may be associated with online identifiers provided by their devices, applications, tools and protocols, such as internet protocol addresses, cookie identifiers or other identifiers such as radio frequency identification tags. This may leave traces which, in particular when combined with unique identifiers and other information received by the servers, may be used to create profiles of the natural persons and identify them."
So your Apple ID becomes PII for a specific site at the precise instant you share any other PII to that site, that they are able to link to the Apple ID.
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#24Reason x why I'm rooting for Zack and his metaverse bet! I love the iPhone & Mac but I dislike apples approach to "privacy" feels hypocritical
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#25> I may be getting something wildly wrong here, but I am not sure I see the presence of this Apple ID proxy in Apple’s services logs to be a violation of either its own policies or users’ expectations for using internet services in general. I strongly disagree that the iOS App Store should be treated as an "internet service" rather than a part of the device. The iOS App Store only comes on iOS devices, it comes on al…
"It would be like Microsoft saying "explorer.exe? Policy A only covers the OS, and that is clearly not part of Windows! - so therefore you are covered by Policy B."
This made me remember a long time ago when I ran Windows I used to disable explorer.exe by editing a certain registry key.
Not sure if this still works today, but it did back then. This reduced distraction as only one window could be maxmized at a time. Also made the OS feel more stable and snappier. In any event it was one less memory-consuming process running.
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#26> I may be getting something wildly wrong here, but I am not sure I see the presence of this Apple ID proxy in Apple’s services logs to be a violation of either its own policies or users’ expectations for using internet services in general. I strongly disagree that the iOS App Store should be treated as an "internet service" rather than a part of the device. The iOS App Store only comes on iOS devices, it comes on al…
Finally, someone puts words on the irks I felt the last times this came up. Thank you.
Apple is basically loopholing all the shitty ad-tech engagement surveillance bs that plagues the rest of the industry through the app store, pretending like it's any other app. Of course they can, but a lot of the hard-line privacy stuff goes down the drain with the hypocrisy.
What bothers me is that Apple really doesn't have to move in this direction, at all. They've been uniquely positioned to basically do things that nobody else can, because they sell so much expensive hardware. Instead, all mega corps seem to blend together and follow the same playbook. It's sad.
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#27That's why I turned all this junk OFF on all my apple devices.
Why would I help them better their software? Hire more test engineers.
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#29I see a lot of very intelligent people here unable to agree upon a matter that seems, in essence, simple enough. That is in itself troubling and partly answers a question. If developers on Hacker News cannot fathom whether Apple deceptively transmitted PII, or whether zealous journalists are over-egging the pudding, then we have another problem. Obfuscation is a form of deception through complexity. It can be hard to…
And some would say this is a deliberate adversarial tactic to guide people to surrender their privacy and freedoms, because those that would defend them can't sufficiently explain the complexity to be more convincing than 'simple' messages.
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#30That's why I turned all this junk OFF on all my apple devices. Why would I help them better their software? Hire more test engineers.
> We also showed earlier that the #AppStore keeps sending detailed analytics to Apple even when sharing analytics is switched off.