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AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by ajross »

oa335 wrote: post #6
exabrial wrote: post #2

I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.

Compare and contrast Russian invasion with the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq: https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.5.htm

Two-decade-stale whataboutism doesn't change anything about the morality of the war in Ukraine or what our response to it should be. There are plenty of bad guys in the world for you to hate. The question should be what are you going to do about it today? Today, it's clear where the bad guys are. Tomorrow it may be different.

Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by [deleted] »

exabrial wrote: post #2

I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.

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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by [deleted] »

vpribish wrote: post #18
userbinator wrote: post #11

subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack They were fired by Ukraine towards Poland in defense?

dude. they are anti-air missiles, pretty easy to understand they were flying west chasing a target

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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by kube-system »

roywiggins wrote: post #15
_-david-_ wrote: post #5

Getting fired for almost starting WW3 due to a fake story you wrote seems like a pretty light punishment. Maybe the AP will do a better job fact checking in the future before causing a war.

Even if it had been a Russian missile it would not have caused a wider war. The Soviets shot down a whole airliner in 1983 and didn't cause one.

Maybe that’s why the Russians got away with the same thing again in 2014.

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Post by [deleted] »

throwawaymedia wrote: post #3
exabrial wrote: post #2

I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.

What Russia is doing is the result of something else. That something else is the root cause of the war in Ukraine.

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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by kodyo »

ajross wrote: post #21
oa335 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compare and contrast Russian invasion with the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq: https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.5.htm

Two-decade-stale whataboutism doesn't change anything about the morality of the war in Ukraine or what our response to it should be. There are plenty of bad guys in the world for you to hate. The question should be what are you going to do about it today? Today, it's clear where the bad guys are. Tomorrow it may be different.

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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by tomjakubowski »

oa335 wrote: post #6
exabrial wrote: post #2

I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.

Compare and contrast Russian invasion with the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq: https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.5.htm

Both bad things deserving of condemnation.

Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by duxup »

somenameforme wrote: post #16

It's amazing how quickly fake news is able to spread through "credible" news sources, all without even the slightest bit of real verification. I don't know if its scary or comforting to consider that if the political establishment wanted WW3, they could have it had it right there. The same intelligence agencies that convinced the world Iraq had WMD could have simply agreed with the story/Zelensky/et al, declare anybo…

Personally I think of incorrect news without someone trying to lie or distort the news as just a mistake.

As far as I know that was the case here, and bound to happen a great deal.

I think of fake news as something else.

Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by roywiggins »

somenameforme wrote: post #16

It's amazing how quickly fake news is able to spread through "credible" news sources, all without even the slightest bit of real verification. I don't know if its scary or comforting to consider that if the political establishment wanted WW3, they could have it had it right there. The same intelligence agencies that convinced the world Iraq had WMD could have simply agreed with the story/Zelensky/et al, declare anybo…

Okay, but consider the fact that they didn't as evidence that NATO doesn't actually want to escalate this war. It's going pretty well for NATO, at relatively low cost (to NATO at least).

Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story

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Post by robswc »

Seems wild how it seems lately there's no room for gray, only black and white.

I got torn apart for saying the "ghost of Kyiv" wasn't real, followed by the "most level headed take" of a reply that went something like "hey, even if its fake, people need something to believe in right now so saying this stuff only helps Russia."

I am of course 100% against what Russia is doing. I just feel like we should all be very aware of what is real and what is fake. Otherwise we can't make good judgments.

I saw people calling for WWIII because of the missile incident. Just blows my mind. I truly think that some people feel so insulated from the effects they view it as some "event" that just takes place in a distant land where if you cheer loud enough and show enough support the "good guys will win" after a few months. The world doesn't need more destabilization. Of course, Russia can't keep killing people either... but at the end of the day, this isn't and shouldn't be solved by online commentators.

I really wish Putin would throw in the towel at this point... its barbaric, depressing and embarrassing.

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