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Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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There was probably an opportunity a few weeks ago to create a social network only for the elites who could prove that they had a Twitter verified account (e.g. by putting a verification code in the bio / description). That would create crazy amounts of FOMO! But unfortunately now anyone can get one, so it's not as attractive. :)

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

#22
How people don't get it - you can't succeed as an alternative to something. You need to build your own thing, find your product market fit with unique proposition. In 5y nobody will know about any of twitter alternatives that are launching these days. IMO even twitter didn't find its product market fit, that's why Musk is breaking it. The more people talk about twitter (in any way) and more people go with "alternative" narrative - twitter gets more user base and more likely is going to succeed in future iterations - while "alternatives" get stuck in the past.

How many failed startups tried to go against facebook, as "social networking alternative" as a rebellion to some bad facebook press, policies or scandals? How many of those succeeded? None.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

#23

With Twitter usage apparently climbing, why is this important? Is the general assumption that Musk is ruining or wrecking Twitter accurate?

There are people who are happy to use products that benefit Elon Musk, and reward his behavior.

There are others who want to avoid his product because they don't approve of his behavior.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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post #18

I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…

Small decentralized communities which users can freely and easily create and manage is the way to go!

Yes --- except for a few nagging little problems. Like stability. Which is directly related to costs/fees to keep a "community" running.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

#27

I find it hilarious that the Silicon Valley Apparatik thinks that NOW an alternate is needed. Gab, GTTR, Parler, Frank Speech, Truth Social have all existed for some time. And with the exception of Gab, the others have almost identical TOS agreements to Twitter.

It's not the ToS that people don't like about those services. What makes social media sticky is the culture. If people like the culture of a social media platform then they stay. Very few people like the culture of Gab, Parler, Truth, etc...

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

#28
post #6

We've already got a replacement that's owned and administered by users, with no ads, that can't be bought and ruined by billionaires: Mastodon. The ex-twitter employees are already running their own server: macaw.social

If you think that Mastodon cannot be bought and ruined by billionaires, you are wrong.

It's all too easy to imagine a (medium-term) future in which the largest Mastodon instance (or something highly compatible with it) will have more than half of the population of Mastodon in it, include advertisements in-feed, and make policy decisions that affect the rest of the Fediverse.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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post #18

I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…

Small decentralized communities which users can freely and easily create and manage is the way to go! Yes --- except for a few nagging little problems. Like stability. Which is directly related to costs/fees to keep a "community" running.

Indeed. Ask anyone running the general discussion group for a small town. The difficulty of effective, fair, and efficient moderation cannot be overstated.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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post #18

I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…

"Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden,"

Saying this on HN is irony crystalized.

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