Isn't that just what a drone is? Hardly breaking news.
Edit: seems like the headline burried the lead, that they are using this for non leathal force crowd control, which i can understand how that could be controversial.
Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns
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Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns
#22Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".
"only" Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israel…
Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places.
Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups (https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts...). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns
#23Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".
Unmanned weapons have always been called "robotic":
https://www.wired.com/2007/10/robot-cannon-ki/
Many industry welding robots are also not exactly autonomous. There are bomb disposal robots that are remote controlled. We don't need to reserve the term for the T1000.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
"only" Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israel…
Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places. Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups ( https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts... ). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
> Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places.
This is odd though, right? Using tear gas in war is a war crime, for almost a hundred years now. It's very strange that we permit its use on civilian populations.
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#25Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".
Guns that fire rubber-tipped bullets can also fire lethal munitions. Of course they'd advertise the "non-lethal" version, but the implications are clear.
Furthermore there has already been at least one Mossad operation where they assassinated someone with a lethal remote controlled gun.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
"only" Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israel…
Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places. Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups ( https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts... ). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
It’s possible to be critical of Israel’s approach without being antisemitic, or as you put it, “scapegoating the Jews”.
Remote controlled munitions, “less than lethal” or not, are deeply concerning no matter who operates them.
On the topic of safety of LLMs, from the discussion of the study:
“In one report [25], over 13% of the cases resulted in moderate to severe injuries with surgical intervention being required in 8% of the cases and another 18% sustaining a traumatic brain injury. ”
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41314-022-00045-0
Not something I’m keen to see used anywhere. Much less in a robotic deployment situation.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
"only" Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israel…
Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places. Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups ( https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts... ). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
> Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
Similarly, be careful that you don't let decades of propaganda bias you towards thinking that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
If their actions and cause is just, I would think they would have no aversion to free and honest speech about it.
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#28Also Elbit System released a promotional video on Lanius drones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4McPHBQ9pNw
I find it very intersting how AI can augment modern warfare. Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage.
Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns
#29Odd, I recall reading a book about 10 years ago, published a few years before that, about Israel using these sort of systems.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places. Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups ( https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts... ). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews
It’s possible to be critical of Israel’s approach without being antisemitic, or as you put it, “scapegoating the Jews”. Remote controlled munitions, “less than lethal” or not, are deeply concerning no matter who operates them. On the topic of safety of LLMs, from the discussion of the study: “In one report [25], over 13% of the cases resulted in moderate to severe injuries with surgical intervention being required in…
If killer robots are inevitable, it makes sense to start with less than lethal robots. Just change the weapons or ammo.
edit: Please don't read this as an endorsement of violence of any kind. Thanks.