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Can someone copy/paste this article? The mobile version is just a big ad that I can't seem to dismiss. P.S. Quick, before SOPA takes effect.

Republican Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee, decided against holding a committee vote that had been expected on Friday. The panel later scheduled a vote for Wednesday, December 21.

The rest is a description of SOPA.

Re: SOPA vote is now December 21

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post #12

There must be serious money to be made - or rather already made for the representatives plowing this through - there is simply no other explanation. Money is definitely deep in pockets. Looking at the "donation" list it's to both sides of the aisle and HUGE amounts, these aren't little $10k donations but $100k and even $1M I am starting to understand the fall of Rome a little better.

We won't have a situation like the Fall of Rome before we have accepted violence as a means of political change.

What killed Rome wasn't just the corruption but the fall of the Gracie brothers. You can't have Marius and Sulla without that. No Sulla, no Cesar, no fall of Rome.

And while we are at it, there are no barbarian hordes that can ever invade the US -- unless you count those in the backwater areas of the flyover states -- simply because the US is so monstrously huge.

Re: SOPA vote is now December 21

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post #12

There must be serious money to be made - or rather already made for the representatives plowing this through - there is simply no other explanation. Money is definitely deep in pockets. Looking at the "donation" list it's to both sides of the aisle and HUGE amounts, these aren't little $10k donations but $100k and even $1M I am starting to understand the fall of Rome a little better.

This situation has no parallels with 'the fall of Rome' whatsoever, unless I'm misreading your intent.

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Ugh. One thing I oddly haven't seen mentioned at all: if it passes, will Obama sign it? I disagree with him on many things, but he's not stupid, and given his support base there have to be some geeks close to him that can explain how awful it is. Of course, his support base also includes Hollywood...

Obama doesn't give a flying fig about his support base. Sorry to be so blunt, but that bastard just threatened to veto the NDAA unless the provisions allowing indefinite dentition of Americans without charge or trial were put pack in. His base is screaming bloody murder, and the White House remains utterly unmoved. Added irony: the Senate passed this abomination on Bill of Rights Day, precisely 220 years after the (n…

Actually that would be great. As long as the Democrats keep the Senate and the House the entire thing will be locked so tightly that they can't do anything.

Of course with Ron Paul trailing so close to Newt, we might have a very, very interesting time ahead.

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Here's an idea, might be ridiculous: Can you file court papers electronically in the US? What if say youtube, wikipedia, etc had a fully automated SOPA compliance system which automatically filed court papers to have the take down notice 'reviewed' however that works thereby overloading the system. There must be some way to reflect the work back at them and DoS a manual process somewhere in the legal machinery. 'OK we'll do it, but your not going to like it...' fight bureaucracy with more bureaucracy.

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So the delay is just to put it under the radar while everyone is off on Holiday break? Devious.

This is a classic dirty trick in politics. Organize an unpopular vote when a lot of the voters have left for xmas holidays. Just make sure there's a majority left when the vote is on. As an example: the federal reserve act was established in the same way on the days before xmas when a lot of the opposition had already left for holidays. Since it's holiday season, the news will be a lot quieter than usual and the publ…

In France, they do the same thing but in August, when pretty much everyone is away on their summer holidays. Democracy has become a funny thing.

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German here, can somebody explain to me what it means when this passes?

As far as i understand it, the US controlled tld's like .com .net are done. Every time someone posts something on these sites they could be shut down, what is impossible to prevent by sites like Tumblr and Facebook. Probably for every domain when the company is US based.

So this will result in a more diverse domain landscape and a competitive advantage for non-US internet companies.

Or did i miss something?

Re: SOPA vote is now December 21

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post #28

German here, can somebody explain to me what it means when this passes? As far as i understand it, the US controlled tld's like .com .net are done. Every time someone posts something on these sites they could be shut down, what is impossible to prevent by sites like Tumblr and Facebook. Probably for every domain when the company is US based. So this will result in a more diverse domain landscape and a competitive adv…

Really depends on how it plays out. My guess is that there will be some favoratism and de-facto lenience towards large companies, because no agency will want to be the one who seized google.com and ruined everyone's day. The downside is that just opens up a large new avenue for corruption and, even when not outright corruption, selective enforcement of laws.

Re: SOPA vote is now December 21

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post #26

Here's an idea, might be ridiculous: Can you file court papers electronically in the US? What if say youtube, wikipedia, etc had a fully automated SOPA compliance system which automatically filed court papers to have the take down notice 'reviewed' however that works thereby overloading the system. There must be some way to reflect the work back at them and DoS a manual process somewhere in the legal machinery. 'OK w…

I don't think lawyers have ever been particularly upset about having more billing clients. I imagine our current glut of law school students would thank them.
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