Which Motorolla? Google's, or Motorolla's? [context question]
Since it is Motorola Mobility, shouldn't that be Google's[1]?
[1]: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2570039/motorola-mobility...
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#22Which Motorolla? Google's, or Motorolla's? [context question]
Since it is Motorola Mobility , shouldn't that be Google's[1]? [1]: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2570039/motorola-mobility...
Until the merger is complete, it's very important that Google and Motorola Mobility continue to behave as independent companies. Since this deal is under scrutiny by the FTC, I doubt that Google would put their acquisition at risk over a project as small as 280 Slides.
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#23I don't know how the developers are feeling, but years ago I was in a similar situation a couple different times. Poured my heart and soul into excellent best in class design and then had it all yanked out and dumped in a vat of acid. Years of my work, of my life, was gone and squandered and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. The couple thousand hours of unpaid overtime was just insult on top of injury. The last time it happened was from a decision by clueless MBAs after a hostile talent acquisition by a Fortune 500 outfit. The talent doesn't always stick around after that sort of shafting. It's like someone has murdered your baby and then wants to to stick around and help them move furniture across town. No thanks.
One of the best arguments for open source is your work can't be trashed and dismissed by financiers and people with business degrees who have no taste and no idea how to create anything. The one thing that redeemed HP in its recent move to trash WebOS was the decision to open source it. Without that, many of the best engineers on the project would have ended up leaving the company in disgust.
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#24I don't know how the developers are feeling, but years ago I was in a similar situation a couple different times. Poured my heart and soul into excellent best in class design and then had it all yanked out and dumped in a vat of acid. Years of my work, of my life, was gone and squandered and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. The couple thousand hours of unpaid overtime was just insult on top of injury…
If by developers you mean the founders, I'd reckon they are feeling pretty good all said and done.
It's common knowledge that a vast majority of acquisitions fail and end up shutting down post acq. So while I can understand your frustration for your unpaid work, it can be assumed that these guys were very well paid. It makes it less similar to your situation.
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#25I don't know how the developers are feeling, but years ago I was in a similar situation a couple different times. Poured my heart and soul into excellent best in class design and then had it all yanked out and dumped in a vat of acid. Years of my work, of my life, was gone and squandered and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. The couple thousand hours of unpaid overtime was just insult on top of injury…
If by developers you mean the founders, I'd reckon they are feeling pretty good all said and done. It's common knowledge that a vast majority of acquisitions fail and end up shutting down post acq. So while I can understand your frustration for your unpaid work, it can be assumed that these guys were very well paid. It makes it less similar to your situation.
I apologize for confusing things by bringing up too many issues at once. In particular, I did briefly mention pay, it was meant to be a brief aside, and should not have because it's irrelevant to the point as it pertains to money. Obviously I was paid a lot, but on salary one does not receive overtime pay for extra hours. Extra hours are thus a free will donation to the project. The idea I was trying to express, but failed to do well was that, if I knew in advance my work would be annihilated, I would never have bothered caring too much about it or staying past 5 to meet an important deadline or working all weekend on a bug fix.
It's not about money. It's about having one's powerful creative work destroyed by imbeciles.
I have 630,000 hours alive before I will die from birth to death. About 200,000 of them remain. The clock is ticking right now. Each hour that passes is lost and will never ever be recovered. The time of talented individuals is best spent contributing, not pissing their talent away in futility.
I did not make the same mistake of youth I describe above ever again. Since then I have always retained control and/or ownership of my work. I gently advise others to consider doing the same.
The purpose of my post was to express sympathy and empathy with their tremendous loss, not disdain for not being rich enough. I am already rich enough, what I can't get more of is hours remaining.
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#26Which Motorolla? Google's, or Motorolla's? [context question]
Could the fact that Google already has a presentation app be used as an excuse to close it down?
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#27Is 280 Atlas also dead? It seems like there hasn't been any movement on the public beta in 9 months.
"761st day of the Atlas Beta."
Hahaha
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Atlas seems effectively dead. Cappuccino is still developed but the original founders (now at Motorola) seem to no longer be involved.
We're still involved, just not as much as we used to be, or as much as some of our other contributors, as we all have other responsibilities.
So is Atlas really...dead? I was really pulling for it there for a while
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
If by developers you mean the founders, I'd reckon they are feeling pretty good all said and done. It's common knowledge that a vast majority of acquisitions fail and end up shutting down post acq. So while I can understand your frustration for your unpaid work, it can be assumed that these guys were very well paid. It makes it less similar to your situation.
I apologize for confusing things by bringing up too many issues at once. In particular, I did briefly mention pay, it was meant to be a brief aside, and should not have because it's irrelevant to the point as it pertains to money. Obviously I was paid a lot, but on salary one does not receive overtime pay for extra hours. Extra hours are thus a free will donation to the project. The idea I was trying to express, but…
I have 630,000 hours alive before I will die from birth to death. About 200,000 of them remain. The clock is ticking right now. Each hour that passes is lost and will never ever be recovered. The time of talented individuals is best spent contributing, not pissing their talent away in futility
I wish I could give you 10 upvotes for this. Time and passion is not equivalent, not even freely interchangeable, with money.