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Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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Re: Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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SpaceX: come build the future of mankind, but we wont pay you very much.

Tesla: come save humanity from climate change, but we wont pay you very much.

Twitter: come help me destroy society by giving voice to authoritarians and authoritarian states, but we wont pay you very much.

One of these things is not like the others, Elon.

Re: Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>“This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade. I'm still astonished that this is even legal in the US, and even more surprised that there has been 0 talk of employees pushing back in a groupal way (strikes? walkouts? anything?)

Musk stated that raising your voice about the issue will certainly get you fired.

Not the first boss to do so. One guy can get fired, the whole company can’t.

Re: Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do salary employees in the US not have a set amount of hours they have to work per week/month/year?

That's a great question. In the US salaried employees are exempt from overtime. Generally, the idea is that you are to work as much as is needed, hence the generally higher pay. There is no set amount of work per the employment contract (in general). You could work very little during slower periods, or a lot during higher demand times.

Seems awful that US laws allows that.

In Germany there is a hard upper cap at 48 hours/week for any normal employee (like pretty much everyone working at Twitter would be). Up to 60 hours/week can be legal if the average in four months isn’t above 48 hours/week (so this is to allow for temporary bursts in the workload, but beforehand or afterwards hours have to be reduced even below 48 hours to reach the 48 hour/week average).

Overtime doesn’t necessarily have to be paid, though this has to be explicitly specified in the employment contract (including the exact number of unpaid additional hours that can be demanded by the employer).

All of this doesn’t mean that many employees – especially those in smaller companies without workers councils or union support – won’t work more than 48 hours/week. That still happens in Germany. But at least no one can demand it from you and hardly anyone would be able to as brazenly just put that in writing.

Re: Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a great question. In the US salaried employees are exempt from overtime. Generally, the idea is that you are to work as much as is needed, hence the generally higher pay. There is no set amount of work per the employment contract (in general). You could work very little during slower periods, or a lot during higher demand times.

Seems awful that US laws allows that. In Germany there is a hard upper cap at 48 hours/week for any normal employee (like pretty much everyone working at Twitter would be). Up to 60 hours/week can be legal if the average in four months isn’t above 48 hours/week (so this is to allow for temporary bursts in the workload, but beforehand or afterwards hours have to be reduced even below 48 hours to reach the 48 hour/week…

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Re: Musk Issues Ultimatum to Staff: Commit to Hardcore Twitter or Take Severance

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I would take the severance and then try to do something for me for 2 months... Then spend the last month finding another job.

No, line up a job first , then tell the new company you will start a bit later. That way the job search is not hanging over you and you can truly relax. If an employer thinks you are a good candidate, and finding good candidates is hard , they will be excited to have booked you and really can and will wait a few weeks. I've done it before.

makes sense, thanks!
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