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Thank you. I'd hate to make a joke-in-poor-taste about the German Job Market Dashboard crashing.
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#22Important! If it is offline, please refer to this image until I get it back online: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/ElMG6yee19KT.png?o=1
Thank you. I'd hate to make a joke-in-poor-taste about the German Job Market Dashboard crashing.
I would take no offence, the dashboard is implemented with https://dash.plotly.com/ which is a great tool for prototyping but doesn't seem to handle concurrent users very well.
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#23I guess a recession will do that? Would love to see other countries' breakdowns.
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#24This is very, very disheartening. Finishing my degree in exactly 2 weeks.
Don't wait until you get the degree to start applying! Send out those applications in droves until you start to get tired of it. Then study for tests. When you get sick of studying, get back to applying. It's honestly just a numbers game.
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#25This is very, very disheartening. Finishing my degree in exactly 2 weeks.
Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.
I'm friends of friends of a couple 2002 CS grads, which was much worse for tech than 2009. All of them ended up working outside of tech. It's really hard to work for a couple of years doing non-tech stuff and then try getting a new grad job when you're no longer a new grad.
My recommendation is a Master's degree if you really want to stay in tech.
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#26are there any other sources for this?
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#27I can also see this by the messages from recruiters I get, really dropped off in the last weeks
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.
I'm friends of friends of a couple 2002 CS grads, which was much worse for tech than 2009. All of them ended up working outside of tech. It's really hard to work for a couple of years doing non-tech stuff and then try getting a new grad job when you're no longer a new grad. My recommendation is a Master's degree if you really want to stay in tech.
Dot-bomb was winter in the US. I quickly lucked into a position with someone I knew, not a developer role but in tech. Were still some very rough times and my comp wasn't great for the better part of that decade. But things could easily have been much worse.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.
I'm friends of friends of a couple 2002 CS grads, which was much worse for tech than 2009. All of them ended up working outside of tech. It's really hard to work for a couple of years doing non-tech stuff and then try getting a new grad job when you're no longer a new grad. My recommendation is a Master's degree if you really want to stay in tech.
I graduated in Nov 2001, and had to do non-tech for almost a year. After that it was small intermittent contracts for another year.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.
I'm friends of friends of a couple 2002 CS grads, which was much worse for tech than 2009. All of them ended up working outside of tech. It's really hard to work for a couple of years doing non-tech stuff and then try getting a new grad job when you're no longer a new grad. My recommendation is a Master's degree if you really want to stay in tech.
I graduated in 2002 with a BSCS. Went into the Army for 4 years, and was able to get an entry level CS job afterwards with a defense contractor (left the Army with a clearance).
Though, at that point, it was actually a pretty significant pay cut from my Army pay (I was an O-3 by the time I got out).