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Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Does this support GrapheneOS's Google Services Framework compatibility layer? And why not fork GrapheneOS instead of Lineage?

Is GrapheneOS' PlayServices sandbox open source?

All of their work is open source, usually Apache-2.0 or MIT but some GPL-2.0 too.

There is an older condensed list of changes here: https://gist.github.com/thestinger/ee536cbd1ca674b94dde05831...

Newer changes are in the updated repos.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Unless these devices have the ability to update their binary OEM blobs then these cannot be considered secure. This is why alternative OSs like GrapheneOS end their support when the Google Pixel is EOL. If you want long term support buy an iPhone or an Android phone that guarantees at least 5 years of security updates.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Unless these devices have the ability to update their binary OEM blobs then these cannot be considered secure. This is why alternative OSs like GrapheneOS end their support when the Google Pixel is EOL. If you want long term support buy an iPhone or an Android phone that guarantees at least 5 years of security updates.

This is clearly documented see (and also the section above it): https://divestos.org/index.php?page=patch_levels#secure

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Does this support GrapheneOS's Google Services Framework compatibility layer? And why not fork GrapheneOS instead of Lineage?

Are there any other projects that are using Graphene's Play Services? My ideal OS is basically Lineage with those patches applied.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Unless these devices have the ability to update their binary OEM blobs then these cannot be considered secure. This is why alternative OSs like GrapheneOS end their support when the Google Pixel is EOL. If you want long term support buy an iPhone or an Android phone that guarantees at least 5 years of security updates.

This is clearly documented see (and also the section above it): https://divestos.org/index.php?page=patch_levels#secure

That makes it even worse. They apparently do not even try to make it secure and willingly exclude some patches. Reminds me of "security by management risk acceptance"

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Unless these devices have the ability to update their binary OEM blobs then these cannot be considered secure. This is why alternative OSs like GrapheneOS end their support when the Google Pixel is EOL. If you want long term support buy an iPhone or an Android phone that guarantees at least 5 years of security updates.

Security isn't everything. Sometimes just having a working device you can use to access information takes priority.

Not everyone can buy a device.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Unless these devices have the ability to update their binary OEM blobs then these cannot be considered secure. This is why alternative OSs like GrapheneOS end their support when the Google Pixel is EOL. If you want long term support buy an iPhone or an Android phone that guarantees at least 5 years of security updates.

This is clearly documented see (and also the section above it): https://divestos.org/index.php?page=patch_levels#secure

The title states "Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices". This "long term support" does not extend beyond cherry picked AOSP security patches and does not address the security issues in the drivers of these devices.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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I have an old OnePlus and it's managed to last like 7 years. Sadly every other developer has abandoned it. Hope this project can bring it back from the dead!

My 2013 OnePlus One still works perfectly fine (with an out-of-date LineageOS). Battery still lasts 2 full days easily.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is clearly documented see (and also the section above it): https://divestos.org/index.php?page=patch_levels#secure

That makes it even worse. They apparently do not even try to make it secure and willingly exclude some patches. Reminds me of "security by management risk acceptance"

They? This is my project, it is just me. There is not a single other project that achieves the scope of what DivestOS does for old devices.

Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is clearly documented see (and also the section above it): https://divestos.org/index.php?page=patch_levels#secure

The title states "Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices". This "long term support" does not extend beyond cherry picked AOSP security patches and does not address the security issues in the drivers of these devices.

But it does what it can. It patches the system, the kernels, adds many hardening features, provides updated browser engines, and removes the proprietary unpatchable components that it can.

This is all well documented on the website, please read through it.

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