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Why Is Tipping Everywhere You Checkout?

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Re: Why Is Tipping Everywhere You Checkout?

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But the cost of carrying deadweight by shaming is not going to work forever. I have been shaming myself and clicking lowest % shown in the screen but this past weekend I finally said no and clicked on 0%. Was not a restaurant just to pick up something pre ordered forget where.

I think it's a US thing. I came from Bolivia and never once tipped anywhere outside of restaurants. No, I won't tip you for packaging 4 cookies in a box at Crumbl Cookies lol.

Not just packaging, it also tips the baker.

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> If a coffeeshop wants to pay their employees more they will have to raise prices This does not follow purely from the facts presented. Consider: "If a coffee shop wanted to pay their employees more, the coffee shop itself might take a smaller cut and keep prices the same."

In practice coffee shops have tiny margins so they can’t afford to do that.

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Is there any empirical backing for this narrative? Some of this reads as pretty counter to intuition. Most suspicious in my mind is the core presupposition (not a contention, a presupposition--the article doesn't even argue for it!) that rich people will step up to the opportunity to fulfill their noble obligation to give more to the less wealthy. Having known some pretty stingy wealthy people (and some very generous…

Having owned a bar in the past I can tell you right now the most wealthy people either didn't tip at all or very little. Fellow service industry people tipped the best.

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As a bartender, I know that I will make more money from tips than any business owner would ever pay me, even if prices were raised 20+% and tipping was removed. I’d rather risk a slow shift with less tips than work a job with a slightly higher hourly rate and no tips. I know there is a lot of bitching online about tips, and I agree that since COVID I’ve seen some absurd situations with asking for tips when the custom…

I think most complaints are coming from customers who don't want to have to consider the wellbeing and livelihood of underpaid employees, who require charity to survive.

In most every transaction these days, customers are guilted into providing wages for essentially unpaid employees, and I'm sick of the mind games.

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As a bartender, I know that I will make more money from tips than any business owner would ever pay me, even if prices were raised 20+% and tipping was removed. I’d rather risk a slow shift with less tips than work a job with a slightly higher hourly rate and no tips. I know there is a lot of bitching online about tips, and I agree that since COVID I’ve seen some absurd situations with asking for tips when the custom…

The problem starts when you work for a place that does not get good tips but heavily relies on them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a US thing. I came from Bolivia and never once tipped anywhere outside of restaurants. No, I won't tip you for packaging 4 cookies in a box at Crumbl Cookies lol.

The intent is not to reward a task. It's a nod of appreciation that there is even an employee that's willing to show up to work and service you. You give them a dollar. At least that's how I look at it. I'm not a fan either just articulating my attitude towards it.

lol i thought my buying cookies was the goal of the business.

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Arguing that new (or newly-conspicuous) PoS tipping is just a way to get price-insensitive spenders to pay more ignores the social dynamic which will cause many price-conscious customers to tip when they can’t really afford to or else to not tip and feel uncomfortable.

In either case, these price-conscious customers are less likely to come back. But since this PoS tipping trend seems strongest in hip, gentrified shops, maybe they aren’t interested in having less well-off customers in the first place.

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My worry is that this "asking for tips" trick is allowing employers to reclassify non-tipped positions as tipped positions that they can then substantially underpay, and not a lot of people know the laws that would force the company to match back to minimum wage if tips don't cover it.

From a #teamchaos point of view I'm a little hopeful this new push is a bridge too far, and it gets us to rethink tipping culture.

Re: Why Is Tipping Everywhere You Checkout?

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As a bartender, I know that I will make more money from tips than any business owner would ever pay me, even if prices were raised 20+% and tipping was removed. I’d rather risk a slow shift with less tips than work a job with a slightly higher hourly rate and no tips. I know there is a lot of bitching online about tips, and I agree that since COVID I’ve seen some absurd situations with asking for tips when the custom…

Question, how much to tip per drink to be a good patron? :)

A dollar is great!
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