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Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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I bet he's gettin something on the side to basically step into the ring of fear here and fire the flare of "now's the time". I don't think people really dispute that now is the time. The problem is the view point. You basically have to put money in and swear not to look at it again until 2013. Because the day by day view of that investment is heart attack unfolding as the bad news isn't going away, the affects of the…

I mostly agree. You have two choices with buying American stocks now: 1 - play the day trade game and squeeze out margins as the market is wild from day to day 2 - play long, buy great deals and hold for years. The only people that can play option 1 well are serious traders that have tons of time, cash, and really know what they're doing (or just have dumb luck, but applies to anything you might do with money). The o…

Aren't the people who play game number 1 largely responsible for the current financial mess? Maybe not day traders per se, but that sort of mentality of everyone thinking they are in the top few percent of investors and able to beat the market.

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Number 1 would almost certainly cause some kind of war.

In 1930 Congress passed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawley-Smoot Tarriff Act Did it work? Anyone? Anyone? No, it did not work, and US sled deeper into Great Depression.

Up mod for Ben Stein homage.

Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly agree. You have two choices with buying American stocks now: 1 - play the day trade game and squeeze out margins as the market is wild from day to day 2 - play long, buy great deals and hold for years. The only people that can play option 1 well are serious traders that have tons of time, cash, and really know what they're doing (or just have dumb luck, but applies to anything you might do with money). The o…

Aren't the people who play game number 1 largely responsible for the current financial mess? Maybe not day traders per se, but that sort of mentality of everyone thinking they are in the top few percent of investors and able to beat the market.

not really; that is leveraged buying. I'm talking about only buying things you actually have the cash to pay for.

Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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A word of caution: Don't invest if you can't sleep soundly at night. Buffet can probably afford to lose a few billions here and there, but you probably can't.

Well said. Most people should follow Mark Cuban's recent advice:

http://blogmaverick.com/2008/10/15/where-to-put-your-money-r...

Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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A word of caution: Don't invest if you can't sleep soundly at night. Buffet can probably afford to lose a few billions here and there, but you probably can't.

Another bit of advice: if you don't need your money for 20 years, you shouldn't lose sleep over short-term drops in the market. And if you are investing for the long run, you can afford to lose 50% of your portfolio today.

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Unfortunately you can't imitate him with high accuracy the way you could with an ETF since they have a number of wholly-owned subsidiaries. That's also what allows their stock to get out of alignment with market value of their holdings.

You can get a good idea of whether Buffett thinks Berkshire is undervalued or overvalued by whether he uses cash or stock for acquisitions, though. When the stock is overvalued, he'll trade overvalued Berkshire stock for undervalued other stocks. When the stock is undervalued or fairly-valued, he'll use cash for the purchase. Everything recent has been done with cash, AFAIK.

Yeah, that's true. I just wish you could imitate him like an EFT.

Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

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Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful Excellent advice. Buffett walks in great footsteps here. Wasn't it J.P. Getty that came out during the depression and said something like "Buy stocks. We're buying as much as we possibly can." ( I paraphrase from memory here)

I could only find "I buy when other people are selling," but he did apparently make a killing during the Great Depression simply by buying stocks.

I thought this quote was terrific and really relevant to HN:

"Going to work for a large company is like getting on a train. Are you going sixty miles an hour or is the train going sixty miles an hour and you're just sitting still? "

There are a bunch of great quotes: http://www.linkrap.com/Getty

Re: Warren Buffett editorial in NYT: Buy American. I Am.

#30

I bet he's gettin something on the side to basically step into the ring of fear here and fire the flare of "now's the time". I don't think people really dispute that now is the time. The problem is the view point. You basically have to put money in and swear not to look at it again until 2013. Because the day by day view of that investment is heart attack unfolding as the bad news isn't going away, the affects of the…

I wouldn't buy equity or debt at this point. There are companies with massive equity holdings who have bought credit default swaps to hedge against various losses. The CDS market is worth around 800 trillion at this point. Most of these contracts will work out without causing problems. That being said, the last plunge came a day after the settlement of Fannie & Freddie for roughly 90 cents on the dollar. We do not kn…

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