Sometimes I imagine what a post-apocalyptic Mad-Max style internet would be like, I would like to see gopher, archie, ftp, irc to come back, maybe over packet radio or something.
Gopher Protocol (2020)
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Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#22I love Gopher, it's a nice, extremely light protocol with none of the added BS I hate about the web. The only people who use it these days are a particular type of person, the type that I generally enjoy reading the thoughts and work of. I actually setup a new service on Gopher recently, a lightweight Google News reader[1] and it works better than I could have really hoped. [1] http://muezza.ca/projects/gophernews/
The only people who use it these days are a particular type of person, the type that I generally enjoy reading the thoughts and work of. Then you might enjoy reading your own thoughts, since it's possible to read HN via gopher. Sorry I don't have the address right now. It's bookmarked on my TRS-80.
Here's also a read-only NNTP/Usenet bridge for HN you can self-host https://github.com/epilys/nntpserver.py/blob/main/examples/h...
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only people who use it these days are a particular type of person, the type that I generally enjoy reading the thoughts and work of. Then you might enjoy reading your own thoughts, since it's possible to read HN via gopher. Sorry I don't have the address right now. It's bookmarked on my TRS-80.
Here's also a read-only NNTP/Usenet bridge for HN you can self-host https://github.com/epilys/nntpserver.py/blob/main/examples/h...
Thanks for this. I’m going to attempt to get it working today. I’ve always wondered if this would work given the data models seem to be a very close match.
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#24There are a number of BBSs still operational too. Most use telnet over port 21, some use ssh and there are even a few that you can access with dial up.
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#25There are at least a few hundred Gopher services running on the Internet: https://www.shodan.io/search/report?query=port%3A70+gopher
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#26I run a site on Gemini, which is a modern sibling of Gopher. I haven't really put the effort into it necessary to generate a "following," which in the Gemini world really seems to just mean people emailing each other. That hits a nostalgia vibe for me.
Gemini is a lot of fun. It feels like the mid-90's web. As a reader, I stumble upon interesting content all the time. As a developer and hacker, it's neat to play with. Currently its about 500,000 pages, so crawling and indexing it is easy. There is no way to commercialize it, so people are just experimenting and having fun. One person hooked up some interactive text games from Infocom like Zork. A few things I've bu…
Awesome!
And it looks like Kennedy has indexed my gemlog, so that's pretty neat.
gemini://dungeonhack.net
How does Kennedy work? I thought Gemini was read-only.
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#27For a comprehensive listing of gopher servers, see gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world
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#28I always liked Gopher for its simplicity and therefore efficiency. Check out also Gemini with Deedum, the gemini browser for Android too :) more reading: https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/gopher-gemini-and-the-smol...
Let me plug my own TUI web/gopher/gemini browser : https://sr.ht/~lioploum/offpunk/
I love and hate it! :D
pros: CLI, nice interface, quite intuitive, smol :-), neat. good use of colors and nice centering in the terminal. cons: actually has/suggest dependencies, but not their versions. i did some trial and error attempts to install stuff, and for example after installing readability package with the current version, it just crashes on startup. after uninstalling it, I adore the ability to view a picture on a linked HTML page though!
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only people who use it these days are a particular type of person, the type that I generally enjoy reading the thoughts and work of. Then you might enjoy reading your own thoughts, since it's possible to read HN via gopher. Sorry I don't have the address right now. It's bookmarked on my TRS-80.
It's gopher://hngopher.com:70/ for anyone reading this that wants to check it out.
Nice asciiart!
Re: Gopher Protocol (2020)
#30I run a site on Gemini, which is a modern sibling of Gopher. I haven't really put the effort into it necessary to generate a "following," which in the Gemini world really seems to just mean people emailing each other. That hits a nostalgia vibe for me.
Gemini is a lot of fun. It feels like the mid-90's web. As a reader, I stumble upon interesting content all the time. As a developer and hacker, it's neat to play with. Currently its about 500,000 pages, so crawling and indexing it is easy. There is no way to commercialize it, so people are just experimenting and having fun. One person hooked up some interactive text games from Infocom like Zork. A few things I've bu…
> It feels like the mid-90's web.
mid-90's web embraced weirdness and creativity. Primarily recognizing that we get so much info visually.
Gemini says: no, it's only text, no creativity or weirdness allowed. While I sort of understand where the authors are coming from, I think they threw the baby (or some of the baby) away with the bathwater.
Yes, some of this can be rectified by clients (like the insistence that images must be external), but clients can only take it so far.