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Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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Can someone tell me what value does Pantone bring to the table? As a man-on-the-street I fail to understand what they are claiming for. Is this about the naming Pantone has given to a particular Hex Code?

My understanding is that the entire suite of colors is calibrated by material, among other things. #aabbcc on the screen does not look like #aabbcc when painted onto wood, or from plastic injection moulding. But Pantone Color #32 will be absolutely identical everywhere.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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The title should really be Pantone wants $15/month for the privilege of using its colors in Creative Cloud or Photoshop Subscription. >To hear Pantone tell it, Adobe had not been updating the Pantone color libraries in its apps for more than a decade, which prompted the end of the previous licensing deal and the wholesale removal of the old libraries from Adobe's apps in favor of the Pantone Connect Extension. It sou…

Seems like they dislike subscription models.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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post #15

Can someone tell me what value does Pantone bring to the table? As a man-on-the-street I fail to understand what they are claiming for. Is this about the naming Pantone has given to a particular Hex Code?

PANTONE colors are specific mixes of pigments, not RGB or CMYK values. A PANTONE color includes elements like texture and lustre in its definition that cannot be captured in primary-color systems like RGB or CMYK. Certain trademark shades, like Tiffany blue, are captured as PANTONE colors as well. PANTONE is the standard for print graphic design because a designer will always know exactly how a PANTONE color will look on paper whereas significant calibration is necessary to get a consistent appearance from RGB or CMYK colors.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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post #15

Can someone tell me what value does Pantone bring to the table? As a man-on-the-street I fail to understand what they are claiming for. Is this about the naming Pantone has given to a particular Hex Code?

From what I recall, its about phyiscal to virtual color matching, so pantone offers samples of say plastic with the exact matching color as the virtual ones, so you can pick a color, tell the manufacturer you want the plastic molded that color and be pretty sure you'll get the right color of product (or if not you can go back to them and tell them to do it according to spec). You'd also want to calibrate your monitor…

Of course at that point you're already bought into the ecosystem with physical samples (which are not cheap), monitor calibration and all, so it feels like a "double dip" for no value added

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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post #15

Can someone tell me what value does Pantone bring to the table? As a man-on-the-street I fail to understand what they are claiming for. Is this about the naming Pantone has given to a particular Hex Code?

By 'hex code' do you mean RGB or CMYK?

Pantone encodes more colours than those two.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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Photoshop is subscription too now right? So they’re just wanting a cut. It’s almost a funny way to indirectly protest the move to subscription everything.

The Pantone subscription is 1.5x as expensive as Photoshop.

I'm pretty sure Pantone would have charged only a fraction of the cost if Adobe would have included a license for everyone.

Since only a fraction of Photoshop users need Pantone, they now need to pay a lot more.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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post #18
post #15

Can someone tell me what value does Pantone bring to the table? As a man-on-the-street I fail to understand what they are claiming for. Is this about the naming Pantone has given to a particular Hex Code?

It’s not just the rgb value. Using a specific Pantone color ensures that when you get it printed or manufactured it’s the color that you expect.

...which is also what you get by using an RGB / CMYK approximation and then telling the manufacturer which kind of paint should be used for that layer (by specifying a Pantone color). What this $15 subscription is for is technically just that set of mappings built-in into Photoshop.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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I wonder why they don't just charge more for the dyes (or the dye licenses, I think they are not making them themselves). I think it is bizarre that you should need a license to write down in a file "use this-and-that tube of color for printing this shape". If anything, they should be paying Adobe for including their colors. Maybe this is a possible evolution? Third party ink producers create photoshop add-ins allowi…

Charging more for the dyes would impact the bottom line of very large business interests, namely, the chemical companies that make the inks, and the printing and publishing companies.

Forcing a contract graphic designer to pay $15/month for the privilege of being able to participate in designing stuff for print is much more palatable to business interests.

Re: Adobe no longer licenses Pantone colors to be used freely Photoshop

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post #19

Well, color me surprised!

Only if you pay me $15 a month.

Seriously I think the value they bring demands a price. Seeing how Adobe abuses its market dominance to force people into their cloud, I can understand their attempts to do the same.

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