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Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by dylan604 »

emkoemko wrote: post #6
csdvrx wrote: post #3

Civil servant thinks the government should expand its overreach and create new regulations + agencies + jobs for civil servants, even when it goes against the constitution, news at 11.

how is it fine that the US allows every Chinese site/app to operate and profit from outside China while China banns everything outside China internally and just copies the banned product to profit from inside and out? we should of never allowed this behaviour

I love the scene from Silicon Valley for this:

Jared: Jian Yang, are you copying all of those companies?

Jian Yang: Oh, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5XQxRrQvw

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by whatshisface »

emkoemko wrote: post #6
csdvrx wrote: post #3

Civil servant thinks the government should expand its overreach and create new regulations + agencies + jobs for civil servants, even when it goes against the constitution, news at 11.

how is it fine that the US allows every Chinese site/app to operate and profit from outside China while China banns everything outside China internally and just copies the banned product to profit from inside and out? we should of never allowed this behaviour

Our government can't ban Chinese companies from selling products, it can only ban its own citizens from buying them.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

bishnu wrote: post #8

How would this even work? Get it out of the app stores, fine. But presumably the URL would still be accessible? Likewise sideloading it onto Android devices?

Well, not to search very far, but OFAC could simply forbid US persons from interacting with TikTok and its subsidiaries. It would send shock waves through the system, but it can be done.

You can then still sideload stuff, but you are immediately in a violation of OFAC. Naturally, I doubt even US government would be stupid enough to open that particular pandora's box.

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Post by nemothekid »

mc32 wrote: post #5

TikTok is the new anodyne entertainment that is worse for youth than stale TV was for previous generations because it encourages harmful behavior. If it were only the time wasting aspect it would not be so bad --the bad part is propagating harmful behavior to unrealized adults, specifically wrong self-help information.

This criticism is valid; however they are not banning TikTok for this reason. Once TikTok is banned that anodyne entertainment will simply just move to Instagram.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by emkoemko »

vkou wrote: post #19
emkoemko wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just do it like China... this is silly that we allow China to block everything while we are happy to allow them to use our market...

So, the thing about championing free speech and free trade is that you also need to allow speech and trade that doesn't benefit you. If you're interested in giving up America's commitment to either, that's fine, but I'd like to have some say in what other forms of speech and trade are silly to allow.

ummm with how much we are propping up China... a country with concentration camps and that is anti free speech is biting us back if your about free speech... all western films need to be edited to Chinese "speech", all companies must say the right "speech"...

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by teepo »

So the main issues are leaking private data to Chinese authorities and the risk of foreign manipulation of the recommendation algorithm. -Does this somehow become a blueprint for oversight, in this case Oracle, of these algorithms for other social media platforms? And who wants to trust Oracle to do this?

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Post by legitster »

bishnu wrote: post #8

How would this even work? Get it out of the app stores, fine. But presumably the URL would still be accessible? Likewise sideloading it onto Android devices?

I would assume TikTok relies on purchasing US based services (server space, ads, etc).

The US issuing the equivalent of "do not honor checks from TikTok, LLC" would be enough to throttle them out of existence in the US.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Post by dylan604 »

harambae wrote: post #13
alphabetting wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is less a free speech issue than a security issue

Free speech is usually banned as being "too dangerous" but who gets to decide that and based on what criteria?

This question is tired. Of course it will be the one "in charge" that decide that. Why is that even a question? I see it posed like it is a thinking exercise on what people might like/dislike or whatever, when it will so obviously be the dictator/totalitarian that has become the leadership that will start banning speech. What type of speech getting banned will be obvious as well as it will be anything that questions or goes against those in charge.
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