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Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Re: Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Post by jesterson »

somthingwrong wrote: post #6
jesterson wrote: post #4

It is possible, my question may be why would you want that? European companies generally pay less then US or Asian companies. Generally attitude towards chinese is bad, you may have to overcome it. Not sure what your prerequisites are, but if I were you, given the conditions, I'd look for job in Asia, then US. Economically EU is in deep hole with a grim outlook, so if you even secure something, it may not hold in lon…

Why I don't find it in China? Maybe you don't know we have the 996(work from 9 am to 9 pm and six-day of a week) culture in all most every IT company in China, and I don't like it, this makes life full of work that's so bad. So the main reason I choose Europe is because at least the companies from there are not like it in China. Why I don't find it in the US, the main problem is the timezone, there is almost 12 hours…

You don't need to be so passive aggressive, especially if you are soliciting for advise. That attitude won't get you anywhere, whether it is China or Europe.

I know well enough of 996. There are different companies and positions in Chinese companies. Yea, if you are low level staff you are doomed to 996, but talented people are treated in a different way.

Re: Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Post by jesterson »

moooo99 wrote: post #5
jesterson wrote: post #4

It is possible, my question may be why would you want that? European companies generally pay less then US or Asian companies. Generally attitude towards chinese is bad, you may have to overcome it. Not sure what your prerequisites are, but if I were you, given the conditions, I'd look for job in Asia, then US. Economically EU is in deep hole with a grim outlook, so if you even secure something, it may not hold in lon…

Speaking from a European perspective, good work life balance seems increasingly compelling for many. My US based peers are still stunned when they learn that I have 32 days of paid vacation. And while European salaries are lower than US ones, they still are high enough to make a decent living, especially if you’re working remotely from a lower cost of living country. Regarding the economic outlook, unfortunately you…

You are absolutely right. The benefits you are talking about are applicable to on-site employees, which is something he would not get without relocation to EU. Relocation to EU will make his cost of living going up with very uncertain future.

Re: Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Post by somthingwrong »

jesterson wrote: post #21
somthingwrong wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why I don't find it in China? Maybe you don't know we have the 996(work from 9 am to 9 pm and six-day of a week) culture in all most every IT company in China, and I don't like it, this makes life full of work that's so bad. So the main reason I choose Europe is because at least the companies from there are not like it in China. Why I don't find it in the US, the main problem is the timezone, there is almost 12 hours…

You don't need to be so passive aggressive, especially if you are soliciting for advise. That attitude won't get you anywhere, whether it is China or Europe. I know well enough of 996. There are different companies and positions in Chinese companies. Yea, if you are low level staff you are doomed to 996, but talented people are treated in a different way.

I'm so sorry to make you feel passive or aggressive, I don't mean it sincerely. Seems like my English still has a lot to learn, I admit that I'm not a talented developer, if WLB work is only provided for the talented developer in China, then I think I have met no one in my life. Thanks for your reply and advice anyway.

Re: Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Post by jesterson »

somthingwrong wrote: post #23
jesterson wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need to be so passive aggressive, especially if you are soliciting for advise. That attitude won't get you anywhere, whether it is China or Europe. I know well enough of 996. There are different companies and positions in Chinese companies. Yea, if you are low level staff you are doomed to 996, but talented people are treated in a different way.

I'm so sorry to make you feel passive or aggressive, I don't mean it sincerely. Seems like my English still has a lot to learn, I admit that I'm not a talented developer, if WLB work is only provided for the talented developer in China, then I think I have met no one in my life. Thanks for your reply and advice anyway.

No worries. Being european and living in Asia for more than a decade I can say cultural differences is something that may be an obstruction to good cooperation.

Whichever you choose hope you'll get a balance you are looking for. All the best in your venture :)

Re: Is it possible for a Asia developer find a remote job in Europe

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Post by creminology »

jesterson wrote: post #21
somthingwrong wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why I don't find it in China? Maybe you don't know we have the 996(work from 9 am to 9 pm and six-day of a week) culture in all most every IT company in China, and I don't like it, this makes life full of work that's so bad. So the main reason I choose Europe is because at least the companies from there are not like it in China. Why I don't find it in the US, the main problem is the timezone, there is almost 12 hours…

You don't need to be so passive aggressive, especially if you are soliciting for advise. That attitude won't get you anywhere, whether it is China or Europe. I know well enough of 996. There are different companies and positions in Chinese companies. Yea, if you are low level staff you are doomed to 996, but talented people are treated in a different way.

Just to state that as a European who has lived in Asia for 20 years, five of those in Beijing, I didn’t read anything passive aggressive in the reply, nor any attitude worth calling out as ungrateful. But it does remind one how written English is a minefield when it comes to (mis)communication.
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