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The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #5

As a mailing-list bound software professional, this is wonderful news. Maybe one day we will be free of software development on MLs.

What's better than a mailing list?

nothing, but kids dont want to hear that. github can fuck us 12 ways to sunday and people will still refuse to submit diffs via email bc it's a different paradigm.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

I also like it. plenty of the guys I collaborate with do too. what data are you going from?

Does the file picker show thumbnails yet?

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #18
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

gnome was the chosen ui and now its terrible, aiming for a mythical apple convert who wants a touch friendly interface gnome 2 was the truth. im curious if id still be running gui's today if gnome didnt crap the bed so bad, im mainly in tmux now.

Switch to Mate.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #18
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

gnome was the chosen ui and now its terrible, aiming for a mythical apple convert who wants a touch friendly interface gnome 2 was the truth. im curious if id still be running gui's today if gnome didnt crap the bed so bad, im mainly in tmux now.

MATE is a fork of Gnome 2. I like it very much, and it's available on all major distros and on the BSD systems.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #9
post #3

I love Gnome, they piss some people off by making radical choices, but slowly they keep iterating and coming up with something nice over a long term. They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by posts like yours and act like short term pleasers. It's foss, you can fork it, you can use KDE. you can switch to Windows if you want. That's what free as in freedom is. Personally…

Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

You know that that is (your/an) opinion, right? I think it is not at all "generally agreed". It wouldn't be the default on most major distros if it did. And even if it was, why would you care even?

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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I also like it. plenty of the guys I collaborate with do too. what data are you going from?

Does the file picker show thumbnails yet?

That's it right, the one thing always brought up. What a horrible DE Gnome must be.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #23
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gnome was the chosen ui and now its terrible, aiming for a mythical apple convert who wants a touch friendly interface gnome 2 was the truth. im curious if id still be running gui's today if gnome didnt crap the bed so bad, im mainly in tmux now.

Switch to Mate.

these days if i must have a gui, it's xfce because it does the moves that got it to the dance, nothing more and nothing less.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #2

> The new platform offers way more features than Mailman, including gamification which newer generations, in general, appreciate, GNOME is a parody of itself.

I assume that means things like emojis/upvotes, slashdot style streaks and awards for participating. I'm sure I could look it up.

Why be hostile to Gnome when they're far from the first to dump mailman, and far from the first to use Discourse?

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

#29
post #2

> The new platform offers way more features than Mailman, including gamification which newer generations, in general, appreciate, GNOME is a parody of itself.

GNOME is formally a FLOSS project, but in reality a managerial-drive Open Source project, a way to elict free works for contributors for the sake of a company business...

Mailing lists are hard not much because mails layer too many tech but because people do not know them anymore due to the big push toward web crapplications, a push choosed for commercial purposes. As a result instead of being on a decentralized infra we end up in centralized ones, get too much overhead than switch to some giant cloud services.

Unfortunately it's not only "generic people" (CL/UL in the Simon's BOFH tails terms) but also technicians who tend "in crowd" to behave as any other "crowd" by Gustave Le Bon...

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #3

I love Gnome, they piss some people off by making radical choices, but slowly they keep iterating and coming up with something nice over a long term. They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by posts like yours and act like short term pleasers. It's foss, you can fork it, you can use KDE. you can switch to Windows if you want. That's what free as in freedom is. Personally…

It's not that easy, you will be tied to GNOME just by fact this or that app (for which there might not be replacement) picked GTK for its interface, so you have to at least go thru configuring it to look the same as the rest of your desktop. No matter which DE you chose you will be under GNOME's malady of design decisions.

> They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by posts like yours and act like short term pleasers.

If your design decisions are so bad there are multiple projects that migrate off you or stick to the old version (hell, GIMP is still stuck at GTKv2 IIRC, with GTKv3 slowly getting there) then your "vision" might not be that great. Honestly GNOME is there because of inertia more than quality of the changes.

> Personally I would have preferred matrix/element but hey Discourse>mailing lists for me.

The interaction for randoms is much easier but I hate how much space it wastes. I wish there was "my desktop is not phone" default theme there...

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