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SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Re: SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Post by grecy »

busymom0 wrote: post #20
grecy wrote: post #4

A friend has regular "RV" starlink, and uses it all the time in motion strapped on top of his spare tire on the rear tailgate of his SUV. It works flawlessly.... except he's done a TON of off road driving on bad corrugations, which eventually killed it - I guess the internal motors are not designed for those kind of vibrations. SpaceX sent him a new dish free of charge.

What type of warranty does the dish come with? Also, do they have some mechanism to detect if it was used "incorrectly" similar to how old iPhones used to have a color changing strip inside to detect water damage?

I have no idea, but he said they were super easy about it - no worries, just send the old one in and we'll send you a new one, free.

We both figured it's product testing, and they didn't seem put out at all.

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Post by bpodgursky »

newZWhoDis wrote: post #16
bpodgursky wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are other (partly regulatory, partly logistical) reasons that companies don't like having extremely large cap sheets. At this scale if it's easy to raise $2B from 2-3 institutional investors you probably don't want to take money from 50,000 small investors.

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I don't actually disagree with you, I don't like the limits on individual investment. It's a weird mashup of paternalism and protectionism by large banks that want to capture startup value.

But in practice I do not believe that even in a highly deregulated investment environment SpaceX would open itself up to retail investment right now.

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Post by hackernudes »

bgorman wrote: post #23
noncoml wrote: post #18

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tbf, interruptions are also a problem with Satellite TV systems

I don't think interruptions are a problem with satellite TV. The satellites are in geosynchronous orbit (unlike Starlink in low-earth-orbit). As long as your view is not blocked or impeded by bad weather you will never see an interruption. Source: worked on satellite TV set top boxes (also had DirecTV for awhile).

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Post by newZWhoDis »

arcticbull wrote: post #17
newZWhoDis wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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We did actually try this, and it was a contributing factor to the Great Depression. Because (a) you don't know Elon (b) you provide no value to them (c) at this stage they're not taking $10K checks from private investors because it would cost more to keep it on the cap table than it would benefit them and ... Theres massive adverse selection bias. Good companies get significantly more value from raising a few small c…

I can reply again

The government that exists solely because I work and pay taxes has no ethical basis for telling me how I can invest my money.

To suggest otherwise is to let the mask slip and admit they are not working in my (or your) interest.

The part you’re missing is if elon rejected my $100k 3+ years ago then OK, fine. That would suck for me, but that’s his choice etc. I can bitch to him.

Instead I have a maternal nanny state that employs exclusively 70IQ morons telling me what I can and can’t do with the money they don’t steal from me. There is no Jack Bauer running the show, it’s your kindergarten teacher with NSA powers.

Explain to me, in detail, why I would continue to work for a system like that? Why would I not try to leave such a system as soon as I am able?

Re: SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Post by margalabargala »

busymom0 wrote: post #19
tony_cannistra wrote: post #3

I was surprised to see this, because I thought a previous FCC regulatory decision limited Starlink terminals to being operational only when stationary. Some Googling revealed that the FCC reversed this in June of 2022. https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/30/23190463/spacex-starlink-...

What was the reasoning for FCC's original decision? Why would they try to stop it?

The original decision was this:

SpaceX: "Hey FCC, can we get permitted for stationary satellite dishes?"

FCC: "Yes."

The new decision:

SpaceX: "Hey FCC, can we also get permitted for moving dishes?"

FCC: "Yes."

The FCC didn't try to stop anything, they just weren't asked about moving dishes the first time.

Re: SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Post by noncoml »

My experience with Starlink is that it kind of works(I get 50-100Mb bandwidth) but I have multiple(as in 10s) sub-second interruptions every hour.

Dishy view is completely unobstructed. And weather is clear most of the time in California.

As much as I hate Comcast, if 100Mb Comcast was available in my area I would trade it in a heartbeat.

Re: SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Post by arcticbull »

newZWhoDis wrote: post #25
arcticbull wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We did actually try this, and it was a contributing factor to the Great Depression. Because (a) you don't know Elon (b) you provide no value to them (c) at this stage they're not taking $10K checks from private investors because it would cost more to keep it on the cap table than it would benefit them and ... Theres massive adverse selection bias. Good companies get significantly more value from raising a few small c…

I can reply again The government that exists solely because I work and pay taxes has no ethical basis for telling me how I can invest my money. To suggest otherwise is to let the mask slip and admit they are not working in my (or your) interest. The part you’re missing is if elon rejected my $100k 3+ years ago then OK, fine. That would suck for me, but that’s his choice etc. I can bitch to him. Instead I have a mater…

> The part you’re missing is if elon rejected my $100k 3+ years ago then OK, fine. That would suck for me, but that’s his choice etc. I can bitch to him.

He did, because he didn't run a CF campaign. Savvy?

Good companies that want your money have avenues, and yeah it may take a bit of extra paperwork but that's just fine. Look at Replit raising via WeFunder.

Re: SpaceX launches Starlink ‘flat high-performance’ dish for moving vehicles

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Post by Ninjinka »

noncoml wrote: post #28

My experience with Starlink is that it kind of works(I get 50-100Mb bandwidth) but I have multiple(as in 10s) sub-second interruptions every hour. Dishy view is completely unobstructed. And weather is clear most of the time in California. As much as I hate Comcast, if 100Mb Comcast was available in my area I would trade it in a heartbeat.

> if 100Mb Comcast was available in my area I would trade it in a heartbeat

Um...duh. Starlink isn't meant to replace your internet where typical options are available. It's meant to give something where there was nothing, or replace much worse satellite internet options.

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