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Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Matt is one of the best, most ethically-driven founders I’ve ever worked with – there are a thousand easier, cheaper decisions Pave could make in how it operates (especially given the space) that he chooses not to do, in service of customers & data integrity. Pave is special!

how ethical is it to spam people's inboxes with unsolicited interview requests, especially when one has never shared their contact info with his company, nor shown the slightest interest in working for it?

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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post #18

Matt is one of the best, most ethically-driven founders I’ve ever worked with – there are a thousand easier, cheaper decisions Pave could make in how it operates (especially given the space) that he chooses not to do, in service of customers & data integrity. Pave is special!

When a zero-karma 1-hour old account says things like this, one should beware.

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Sometimes I daydream about starting a product company and my thinking goes like this: Do you have a decent idea that solves a real problem? - yes, check. Do you have respect for the iterations and learning required to find product market fit? - yes, check. Do you have years of relevant engineering and product experience and can you build and execute on stuff? - yes, check. But then my thoughts turn to what seems to a…

WRT hiring, I've been looking for a job and had a number of interviews, perhaps 15-20. Odd thing is they've almost all asked for touchy-feely things such as my values, what's my favourite language and the like but no actual hard questions that tested my knowledge or capabilities.

The only org that did that said I beat everyone else and they're interested in having me (currently in progress in fact). Make of it what you will; I don't know what to think. They all want innovative problem solvers with deep knowledge but don't ask the interview questions that would show that up. It makes no sense.

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Sometimes I daydream about starting a product company and my thinking goes like this: Do you have a decent idea that solves a real problem? - yes, check. Do you have respect for the iterations and learning required to find product market fit? - yes, check. Do you have years of relevant engineering and product experience and can you build and execute on stuff? - yes, check. But then my thoughts turn to what seems to a…

I don't know the details of your skillset, but maybe you can try launching a product that doesn't need investors and employees. So make your daydream about a product, not a product company.

Not all companies have to be big, and maybe you don't even need to create a company to create something helpful / beautiful / profitable / whatever floats your boat.

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Sometimes I daydream about starting a product company and my thinking goes like this: Do you have a decent idea that solves a real problem? - yes, check. Do you have respect for the iterations and learning required to find product market fit? - yes, check. Do you have years of relevant engineering and product experience and can you build and execute on stuff? - yes, check. But then my thoughts turn to what seems to a…

WRT hiring, I've been looking for a job and had a number of interviews, perhaps 15-20. Odd thing is they've almost all asked for touchy-feely things such as my values, what's my favourite language and the like but no actual hard questions that tested my knowledge or capabilities. The only org that did that said I beat everyone else and they're interested in having me (currently in progress in fact). Make of it what y…

Good luck to you. Going through a job hunt is tricky. It sounds like you have an interested company and I hope it works out. Keep pushing.

> They all want innovative problem solvers with deep knowledge but don't ask the interview questions that would show that up.

The hiring process is a quintessentially human process so you're going to experience many different types of people.

Keep focused on enthusiastic service. Focus on showing how you can help the company out with their mission. Research the company ahead of time and build a case that you are ready to communicate to the hiring team. Answer their questions honestly and directly but if they don't ask great questions, no big deal, just proactively fill that gap with good reasons why they should bring you on.

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

WRT hiring, I've been looking for a job and had a number of interviews, perhaps 15-20. Odd thing is they've almost all asked for touchy-feely things such as my values, what's my favourite language and the like but no actual hard questions that tested my knowledge or capabilities. The only org that did that said I beat everyone else and they're interested in having me (currently in progress in fact). Make of it what y…

Good luck to you. Going through a job hunt is tricky. It sounds like you have an interested company and I hope it works out. Keep pushing. > They all want innovative problem solvers with deep knowledge but don't ask the interview questions that would show that up. The hiring process is a quintessentially human process so you're going to experience many different types of people. Keep focused on enthusiastic service.…

Companies want mainly decent tech skills, or so they claim, but don't ask the tech questions to pick out those candidates (again, IME). How does that add up?

> Research the company ahead of time and build a case that you are ready to communicate to the hiring team

Yeah, to do that you need to know the companies' requirements. As an outsider you can't know them.

> proactively fill that gap with good reasons why they should bring you on.

I've even offered to work free for companies to start with. I got not one taker in the past few years. I offered to work paid - I go through the interview process where I don't asked get asked tech questions, just the touchy-feely stuff which I can't stand out in (who can?).

Point is, interviewing could be made a lot simpler and more effective I think; per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33334492 I don't think you need to spend "half of all their time interviewing and hiring new employees". You should be able to filter far more efficiently. That's my point, not whingeing about my particular case.

Re: Learnings of a CEO: Matt Schulman, Pave, on Hiring

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I don’t like the try-and-hire approach, we have trial periods in europe for this. And even these don’t really give you as employee the free choice as finding a job takes time. If I commit to a job then I expect them employer to his part: Pension fund, insurance, onboard etc and not have unfair some leverage over me.

this 100%
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