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So ruin macOS for the sake of inferior hardware.
Inferior hardware? The iPad Pro has the same CPU as a Macbook...
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Rumor is macOS is coming to iPads, so makes more sense when you think of it that way
So ruin macOS for the sake of inferior hardware.
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#23Also, stage manager is a UI/UX nightmare, I will stick to Rectangle app.
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I don't see the point of the change. It looks too much like iOS.
The previous System Settings UI was long overdue an update. While the new UI does very much resemble macOS, I don't see that as an issue, as it works very well in this context. At least, I believe it does, but I am no UI/UX expert.
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#25To everyone who worked on System Settings, you put in a ton of work, and you're all very talented to ship something in a new framework (SwiftUI) that has gone on to millions of devices. I only have one question: who was in charge of the thumbs up / thumbs down on this new design? Was it Craig Federighi? You all did amazing work with the tools offered - SwiftUI makes the side bar navigation and simple cell table views…
I don't see the point of the change. It looks too much like iOS.
Stage manager definitely gives me that vibes. Apple trying very hard to make the UX feel same in a laptop and iPad.
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#26It seems wrong to me in an age of excessive e-waste that seemingly arbitrary thresholds is set that has zero hardware links.
I generally really like Apple, and is planning on retiring my 2014 Macbook Pro for an M2, but it's still working absolutely great. But i could only upgrade to Monterey with the legacy patcher like many others, seemingly problem free.
It's the same thing with older iPads, i wanted to use one as a "hub" for homekit, but you can't because it can't update ios beyond 9 (regular browsing + video + 99% of apps is also broken), so people just throw it in the dumpster with a great battery, a fine screen and a processor that could easily be used as a server, video player, browser etc.
I know other companies are often worse but we really need legislation around this; something ala if the biggest players drop support for some hardware let the user upgrade anyway even if performance will be worse, otherwise release all drivers so that you can at least install linux or alternatively release some "trimmed down versions" of the OS for legacy systems that can still run basic functionality.
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#27To everyone who worked on System Settings, you put in a ton of work, and you're all very talented to ship something in a new framework (SwiftUI) that has gone on to millions of devices. I only have one question: who was in charge of the thumbs up / thumbs down on this new design? Was it Craig Federighi? You all did amazing work with the tools offered - SwiftUI makes the side bar navigation and simple cell table views…
What are you talking about?
First of all, there's zero "critical real estate" to lose. Settings doesn't, and never has, taken up even close to full screen width on any regular laptop/monitor. And it still doesn't. Literally nothing is lost.
Second, why doesn't it make sense? The previous icon palette was a usability disaster. I'd spend 15 seconds hunting for which damned icon I was looking for each time. The sidebar has much more logical groupings. Plus, when you follow a button/link in one panel that leads to a different panel (e.g. accessibility to keyboard, or vice-versa) it's clear visually where you are now, because a new category in the sidebar is highlighted.
And I just have no idea what visual clutter you're talking about either. Do you find tab bars at the top of a dialog to also be clutter? Do you find the menu bar to be clutter? Because this works the same as both of those.
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So ruin macOS for the sake of inferior hardware.
This is far from "ruining macOS". System Settings was one of the few areas of the OS that hadn't been updated in forever. This was long overdue.
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#30>Orange color scheme is fittingly Halloween-y for late October
Lol what? Are we to the point now where OS updates are so mundane that a highlight of the release is that the primary color scheme is "holiday relevant" for at most two weeks out of the year?
Not bashing Ventura - I haven't used it - I just feel like this is a weird thing to put in the "pro" column for a review of an operating system. Not that putting it in the "con" column would be any less weird...