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Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

simonalexcurran wrote: post #18
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #15

How does this compare with some of the more 'enterprise' style tools like Alteryx? What would you say are the main differentiators?

Alteryx in particular seems to focus more on analytics. You can build dashboards and charts with Noloco but our focus is more on CRUD operations - enabling you to give other team members access to data and control the permissions they have (read-only, update, create records) via permission rules at database level. In general, we tend to see that existing enterprise-focused tools tend to be more low-code rather than n…

Got it, that makes sense. Thank you and good luck!

Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by mason55 »

darraghmckay wrote: post #14
enos_feedler wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure I follow your logic on why a low code tool should generate apps that don't need to worry about being tested. Even regular software _should_ function the way we tell it to but the point of testing is that sometimes this changes to no longer be true _unintentially_. If I generate a low code program with your tool that should have some desired behavior, but then someone makes changes it for it to do new th…

I see what you mean, I guess the best and only way to do that would be to write integration like tests with something like Cypress, as you could with any web-app. If you want to verify that it works how you want vs how it's setup to work, then you would be better leaning on existing tools that can do that. My point about not needing to test it was about the implicit trust you would put in a platform like this, just l…

I wouldn't write unit tests for an external library but any integration test will implicitly test any external libraries that are in the code path. That's one of the points of integration tests - catching cases where the underlying code still works as it's supposed to but the way it's supposed to work has changed. Whether it's an external library or code you wrote, your goal is to test that all the pieces still fit together like they're supposed to.

In the case of something like Noloco, I imagine it would be more like "we need to change this DB schema, can we update the schema in a test environment and make sure that we didn't break our Noloco app?" There's nothing to unit test there but if you don't have a solid set of integration and e2e tests then you might have a form that's halfway through a flow that suddenly stops working and you don't notice until your conversions crater to zero.

Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by vosper »

aargh_aargh wrote: post #24

https://sso.tax/

To be fair, integrating with enterprise SAML isn’t zero-effort. There are engineers/IT on both sides going back and forth, and the provider is going to have to deploy a test environment for the customer, possibly debug things there, then there’ll be questions to answer about federation etc…

I wouldn’t do it for free, either.

But standardized SSO like Google or (presumably) Office 365 - yeah there shouldn’t be a tax on that.

Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by simonalexcurran »

vosper wrote: post #25
aargh_aargh wrote: post #24

https://sso.tax/

To be fair, integrating with enterprise SAML isn’t zero-effort. There are engineers/IT on both sides going back and forth, and the provider is going to have to deploy a test environment for the customer, possibly debug things there, then there’ll be questions to answer about federation etc… I wouldn’t do it for free, either. But standardized SSO like Google or (presumably) Office 365 - yeah there shouldn’t be a tax o…

We actually do offer Google Sign-In as an option across all plans that users can enable for their apps (I know this probably isn't clear on the website).

Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by orliesaurus »

It's a crowded space out there, I think Retool is a beautiful crowned beast - leader of this space - but personally I tried and failed at using it many times. It was just too much UI/complexity to even get through a simple hello world! Nonetheless good luck folks, there's definitely a market there and a lot of hungrier builders who wanna build stuff

Re: Launch HN: Noloco (YC S21) – Build internal tools from data without code

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Post by darraghmckay »

hoosieree wrote: post #29
metadat wrote: post #9

Love the domain "noloco.io", is this an intentional nod / reference to "SoMoLo" (as in Social, Mobile, Local) from the show Silicon Valley?

The German TLD seems to be available.

Do you mean noloco.de? We actually do own that. I just need to setup a redirect
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