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Sadly my company's office is being renovated, so I don't think I can go until next summer earliest, but I will be there as soon as possible.
Remote workers can go and pretend to work elsewhere.
> As soon as a company's IT department is practically fully remote, why should they page a German wage for someone who is a face on a screen, when they can pay a fraction for that same face broadcasted from a few hundred kilometers further east or south? German is hardly used in business context here anyway and lower-wage countries within ±3 hours timezones abound. This has already happened and has resulted in unific…
If that is the case, why are dev salaries in, for example, Dublin so much higher than Berlin (€115,000 vs €86,000 if Levels.fyi is to be believed)? Both are EU capitals with excellent, well-educated workforces.
I bet that the total cost per employee is pretty close.
But I think it will become increasingly common to divide social life and work in the future. Imagine the following: You have a few good friends in Berlin and each of you work for different companies. But you all work remotely. You could rent a small office space with your friends everyone could work from there, but on different things. You can grab coffee together and talk about metal bands, you can grab lunch together, and you can get a drink after work.
I for one, would prefer this setup, then being force into a location and social life that I don't want to be part of. Sure, you can be lucky and meet great friends at work, but often times this is also temporary - people leave teams, people leave companies etc.
I'm in Berlin (moved from Seattle). Want to commiserate over beer/coffee? If anybody else wants to join just reply :-)
So many words to say you are lonely. You are lonely and that is perfectly understandable. For most of my corporate employment experience even being at the office felt distant lonely. So for me it isn’t so much the distance between employees but the culture imposed by leadership. I actually feel less lonely at home where my cats and dogs are in constant need of affection.
I work as a software engineer. I love my career. I also love to work (100%) from home. It's not an imcompatible setup.
> Then there are people who work mainly to get paid and do not care to invest themselves beyond what is necessary. But are those really the majority?
I work mainly to get paid. I do read all tech books that land on my desk as well on my free time. I couldn't care less to play office politics. I love writing Go programs on my free time. I couldn't care less about discussing REST vs Graphql, Rust vs Go with office colleagues. Again, it's not incompatible.
So many words to say you are lonely. You are lonely and that is perfectly understandable. For most of my corporate employment experience even being at the office felt distant lonely. So for me it isn’t so much the distance between employees but the culture imposed by leadership. I actually feel less lonely at home where my cats and dogs are in constant need of affection.
If housing in the city was more affordable and people could live a few minutes from the office, maybe they'd be more inclined to go in. Thanks to vampiric landlords who want to suck every penny out of tenants, the young people who do want to go in can only afford to live an uncommutable distance away.
> As soon as a company's IT department is practically fully remote, why should they page a German wage for someone who is a face on a screen, when they can pay a fraction for that same face broadcasted from a few hundred kilometers further east or south? German is hardly used in business context here anyway and lower-wage countries within ±3 hours timezones abound. This has already happened and has resulted in unific…
If that is the case, why are dev salaries in, for example, Dublin so much higher than Berlin (€115,000 vs €86,000 if Levels.fyi is to be believed)? Both are EU capitals with excellent, well-educated workforces.
This relies on doing certain finishing work in Ireland so that all the companies IP and operations can be credited there. You need your servers there, or shadow managers to sign off sales and investments made in Germany so that the sale can be credited to Ireland. So you need to hire in Dublin specifically.
e.g. but not the totality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechaun_economics
"in 2019, the IMF estimated 60 per cent of Irish foreign direct investment was "phantom"
My main point here is that you can't use it as an example for this discussion as it is a special case.