Marketing can only go so far. Are more people finally starting to take their heads out of the cloud? Not only do cloud providers need to pay their own costs, they also need to make a profit on top of that; thus, if one thinks critically, the only time renting can be cheaper than owning is if it's short-term.
Do you also grow your own food to avoid the overhead of paying farmer and grocer?
81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
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Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#22Marketing can only go so far. Are more people finally starting to take their heads out of the cloud? Not only do cloud providers need to pay their own costs, they also need to make a profit on top of that; thus, if one thinks critically, the only time renting can be cheaper than owning is if it's short-term.
Unless you're an infrastructure or network logistics company, it's a waste of resources to build your own. Cloud services are so commoditized already it's unlikely to be any sort of meaningful differentiator for your company. Especially if your field isn't even tech proper.
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#23Meanwhile, how many are giving their teams the resources (i.e., people) necessary to do the analytics on the bill required to find & cut costs? Every cloud I've worked with has been terrible at billing in a way that could be reasonable investigated. At one point we literally pulled all the billing data into a SQLite database. (And that was a great idea, as it made queries against it much faster.)
Further, most higher ups seem to have a sense of "it won't be invented here", and so a lot of stuff ends up in vendor land; need more people then to pull those separate bills into one spot, and start attributing costs against the revenue they might help generate.
I've also worked a fair number of places where people were cagey about telling eng how much they're spending where. If you want your IT dept. to cut costs, they have to know where the money is going.
And then there's the yak shaving of it all: we've had a support ticket open w/ Azure for 9 days now asking "where did this $1k go?". Our Blob Storage "Cool" tier costs upticked, and I'm 99% sure the bill there is just wrong. Cool storage should be (price * amount stored) and the "how much are we storing" graph is not proportional to the cost graph. The only gotcha is an early delete penalty, and we are also pretty confident we're not hitting that. (We know what's being deleted when, and none of it should be subject to it.) But how does it take a over week to answer the question?
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you also grow your own food to avoid the overhead of paying farmer and grocer?
People do cook instead of eating out . Analogies are not problem-solvers, and it's a false dichotomy because owning is not the only alternative to the cloud
What's wrong with letting the specialists handle logistics so you can focus on business logic instead of basic piping?
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#25Marketing can only go so far. Are more people finally starting to take their heads out of the cloud? Not only do cloud providers need to pay their own costs, they also need to make a profit on top of that; thus, if one thinks critically, the only time renting can be cheaper than owning is if it's short-term.
Do you also grow your own food to avoid the overhead of paying farmer and grocer?
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#26I'd think 100% of businesses would direct to reduce spend
It’s opportunity cost. Is it better for developer X to increase revenue by adding a feature or save money reducing a cost? It depends.
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#27Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#28I wonder if companies are 1. actually seeing economic difficulty and responding by cutting costs, or 2. imagining/predicting a slowdown, responding to their imagined/predicted slowdown by cutting costs, thereby causing an actual slowdown.
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you also grow your own food to avoid the overhead of paying farmer and grocer?
As far as I know, none of my farmers and grocers are building penis rockets and flying them to space, so they might be working with a bit lower margins than AWS.
Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending
#30How many would say this normally? I.e., what's the baseline? Meanwhile, how many are giving their teams the resources (i.e., people) necessary to do the analytics on the bill required to find & cut costs? Every cloud I've worked with has been terrible at billing in a way that could be reasonable investigated. At one point we literally pulled all the billing data into a SQLite database. (And that was a great idea, as…
I don't get time for that - I've got access to Cloudability but no one has ever showed me how to use it.