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Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

The narrative that's coming out of the CDC had been shifting over the last week - get ready for Omicron V2, and Governor Pritzker and others are bringing back mask mandates. It's clear that the government knows stuff we are not ready for.

Europe is ahead, as usual, with new Covid variants, so the CCC is adequately prudent.

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

There is a new law that allows for stricter Covid regulations between October and April, this can make planning large events a gamble.

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

In Germany the hospitalization rates is what now indicates Covid protection measures and they surged in recent weeks.

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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post #20

Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

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> AZ vaccine until it was finally pulled off the market in Germany.

What? It’s still getting used.

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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post #20

Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

In Germany the hospitalization rates is what now indicates Covid protection measures and they surged in recent weeks.

The official numbers:

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus...

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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post #20

Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

Currently, not really for most events. Big concerts, trade shows, sports games, etc. are happening without any restrictions.

Moving into winter, the general situation can change and many people are expecting more strict regulations.

And then there’s the question of community and personal assessments. C3 is an event run by a community that tends to be note cautious with respect to risks. And, as the announcement says, "[w]hat might be possible would not be a Congress".

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany the hospitalization rates is what now indicates Covid protection measures and they surged in recent weeks.

The official numbers: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus...

Your link has outdated hospitalization data.

https://www.zeit.de/wissen/aktuelle-corona-zahlen-karte-deut...

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

I was at a conference with around 1000 attendees in Germany this summer. The organizers put out a lot of recommendations for visitors regarding Covid (wear masks, be vaccinated, test yourself before and after the event, etc.), but none could be enforced on site since there was no legal basis for it. The result was that precautions were largely ignored by everyone at the event. The aftermath was that the entira orga team, most presenters on stage and (as far as I could judge by social media) a large number of attendees contracted Covid.

My personal take from this was a) FFP2 masks work - I strictly wore one indoors and didn't get sick b) things are not back to normal, despite what some people say. I don't remember this many people getting sick after an event before Covid.

Re: No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

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Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.

I was at a conference with around 1000 attendees in Germany this summer. The organizers put out a lot of recommendations for visitors regarding Covid (wear masks, be vaccinated, test yourself before and after the event, etc.), but none could be enforced on site since there was no legal basis for it. The result was that precautions were largely ignored by everyone at the event. The aftermath was that the entira orga t…

the whole point is that covid is no big deal. It's at best a minor flu at this point. People "contracting Covid" are irrelevant
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