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Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by chaxor »

xutopia wrote: post #5

The overfished. Simple as that. Snow crabs have been becoming smaller and smaller because the biggest ones were not living that long anymore. It happened to cod fisheries in eastern Canada and it is happening everywhere until it's too late.

This likely isn't true due to the scale of disappearance of crabs.

*90% of the are gone - in only 2 years* That's not just overfishing, something much worse has happened.

The cod overfishing was also a very unfortunate tale, but they saw the signs and tracked them catching fire and burning to the ground the entire time, just didn't do anything about it.

Here, AFAIK, they were bewildered at how this occured.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by Damogran6 »

whymauri wrote: post #15
washedup wrote: post #3

Wow, those are some crazy numbers. Shocking it could happen that fast... what's next?

I'm eating as much delicious sushi grade tuna I can before it's gone.

You and everybody else. That's the problem.

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Post by ASalazarMX »

ijidak wrote: post #2

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I understand your mindset, what I can't understand is why you offer religion as solace. These very real world problems won't pray themselves out. With your approach we might as well just act as if nothing is happening and be happy. That's a solution that might work for old people on their way out, but it's absurdly inadequate and insensitive for the young generations.

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Post by irrational »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #13
nyc_data_geek1 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed

That our ability to change the world is increasing? I mean we are clearly affecting it more then we ever had in the past. Or do you want a citation from the future?

But, we always affect it in negative ways. Our ability to change the world in negative ways says nothing about our ability to ever fix it since we have absolutely no experience doing that.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Post by toss1 »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #9
ijidak wrote: post #2

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Meh, our ability to change the earth grows every year sooner or later we'll fix it.

NO

Our ability to change the earth grows every year

Technologically, we get closer to the ability to fix it.

BUT the fact that this kind of collapse keeps re-occurring means that humans are turning out to be collectively too stupid to actually fix such things until after a disaster happens.

The Tragedy Of The Commons has been known about for centuries. Yet it keeps happening again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, [ . . . ] etc., including in this very instance.

All humans need to do is adjust to the reality. Yet the fact that some of the adjustments will mean that some of the people will need to change how they make a living, causes too many humans to argue vociferously that the change will be delayed. Humans even start wars over this kind of stupidity. And then, THE EARTH SYSTEM COLLAPSES, and forces everyone to make the change.

The only question now is how big a disaster will happen and how recoverable it is. If we are lucky, the disaster will be just in the sweet spot of [bad enough to force the stupid mass of humanity to change it's ways], but not quite [bad enough that it cannot be recovered once those ways are changed].

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