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Re: Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products

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Post by nullandvoid »

dbingham wrote: post #3

I really want to get a Framework laptop, all their values seem very well aligned with what I want from a laptop maker, but until they offer a model with a larger display I'm stuck waiting. As a developer, I really need at least a 15" display, preferably 16" or 17".

+1 I really wanted a framework laptop, but had to go with Asus M16 in the end due to size limitations.

A dedicated GPU is another missing feature for me. I'm hoping with how powerful iGPU are becoming (amd 7000 looks promising) this should be a non issue hopefully by next purchase.

Re: Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products

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Post by lillecarl »

km3k wrote: post #16
CleverLikeAnOx wrote: post #2

Framework making laptops less disposable fills me with joy. I hope someone is able to do the same with cellphones.

Fairphone is trying to, but their market is mainly limited to Europe.

I have one at home, and I must say that it's very decent. Was my daily for a year. BUT the camera is crap, it's big and it's quite slow.

Only thing that was a "deal breaker" was the camera though, it just doesn't cut it for what we expect these days.

Re: Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products

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Post by smoldesu »

causi wrote: post #14
pmlnr wrote: post #4

A keyboard with full sized arrows, dedicated pgup/pgdown, 3 physical mouse buttons and a trackpoint, I'm begging you, please.

Yes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit , Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.

Part of the point is that people can build this stuff themselves. Like, adding 4-6 USB ports onto this thing would be a weekend project if you already own a 3D printer. Bluetooth mouse one can probably be done with an off-the-shelf Alibaba kit, the Ethernet module exists already, and all 4 ports are serial by-default (but you could still add a SCSI port if you insist on being a villain).

Though I agree, for a device that's trying to cater to both Thinkpad and Macbook users alike, they're seemingly allergic to all the stupid things people actually pay big money for on those machines.

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Post by humanistbot »

causi wrote: post #14
pmlnr wrote: post #4

A keyboard with full sized arrows, dedicated pgup/pgdown, 3 physical mouse buttons and a trackpoint, I'm begging you, please.

Yes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit , Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.

Same, I've never understood the love for a laptop with only four ports -- and if you want one of those to be ethernet, it is not flush with the case. The modules could have been slightly bigger to fit 2x USB-A or USB-C, ethernet flush with the case. I hate carrying around and losing adapters.

And the case could have been slightly bigger to allow for novel keyboard designs, including mechanical keys with better travel or a trackpoint. The framework has been out for a year and nobody has released a third party keyboard that is materially different.

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Post by wdavidw »

Octabrain wrote: post #5

I am really tempted to get a Framework laptop. Has anyone real world stories about using it with Linux (specifically Fedora)? Thanks in advance.

Not too long ago, we shared our feedback on using NixOS with our Framework: https://www.adaltas.com/en/2022/08/22/nixos-framework-laptop...

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Post by jonesetc »

esel2k wrote: post #11

I buy generally alot of things used/refurbished - also my beloved X1 carbon. As a swiss I always found it difficult to find the right keyboard, especially with ultrabooks. If framework would make it easy to buy another keyboard format I am all in (ready to pay the other keyboard incl small change fee). On the other hand if like all other manufacturers you are pretty much tied to one keyboard language(hard to change)…

Not sure if any of the existing ones matches what you're looking for, but my understanding is that they offer just what you're looking for: https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards

Re: Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products

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Post by causi »

stormbrew wrote: post #20
causi wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit , Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.

Introducing a whole new structure for modules would be a huge self-defeat for their reason for existing. I didn't get a framework laptop with the expectation they'd obsolete it in a couple years.

Why would you need a whole new structure? They've already shown they're willing to have extended-body modules such as the ethernet one.

Re: Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products

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Post by humanistbot »

smoldesu wrote: post #24
causi wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit , Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.

Part of the point is that people can build this stuff themselves. Like, adding 4-6 USB ports onto this thing would be a weekend project if you already own a 3D printer. Bluetooth mouse one can probably be done with an off-the-shelf Alibaba kit, the Ethernet module exists already, and all 4 ports are serial by-default (but you could still add a SCSI port if you insist on being a villain). Though I agree, for a device…

The expansion slots are too small to fit 2x USB-A ports in a single expansion card (edit: without an extended body, which will not work for me). They could fit 2x USB-C in one, but the fact that nobody has made one in the year this product has been out makes me wary of the promise of an entire DIY ecosystem.
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