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Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

#21
post #7

Is anyone using a reasonable jira client?

There are various command line clients and you can build your own tools with the REST API.

I wrote a simple command line script that outputs my time tracking on JIRA issues because our time tracking tool (that read the data from JIRA) is even worse than JIRA itself.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

#23
post #16
post #5

What is the alternative? Basecamp ?

Article lists Linear. Can anyone share their experiences?

Linear is gorgeous and satisfying to use, very aesthetically pleasing.

It includes Jiras killer feature, links between issues, across projects.

But...

It can't sync issues with github, it must fully be the source of truth for everything. This made it a non starter for us, we tried but it just can't work when not every piece of work by everyone is in linear. Even Jira allows sync.

It also didn't allow enough detail. For lightweight task management it was great, but when you have big discussions it was weak.

Github is great, but is missing issue links and better lightweight planning like tasks lists that auto update when linked issues update.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

#25
post #5

What is the alternative? Basecamp ?

There are none, because Jira does a million different things, not necessarily all that well though.

Jira can be a task manager, a bug tracker, a service desk ticketing system, a project planner (regardless of methodology applied), a Kanban board, a knowledge database and so much more if you know how to configure it. That's also why sucks in many cases. You end up in these weird situations where you have a service desk ticket marked as an Epic, or on person on the team uses a kanban board, while the rest are just going by a different priority. Sometimes priorities migrate from you service desk to a SCRUM project and things make no sense.

You can work pretty well with Jira, if you can stick to one set of feature and keep the entire organisation locked to one type of projects. There are some things it's not good for, I don't see it as being a good project planing tool, regardless of how you try to use it. As a service desk tool it's pretty good.

I will say Jira is much better something like Phabricator or Bugzilla. Neither of those are alternatives, Phabricator is the closet, but it still doesn't do all the things Jira does.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

#27

For a company worth a small fortune Atlassian are totally incapable of designing good products. Since they acquired Trello I’ve watched them slowly but surely overcomplicate the interface making the product less intuitive.

> a company worth a small fortune Atlassian

Atlassian market cap: 52 billion USD

> a small fortune

> small

What.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

#29
It doesn't suck for it's founders, who became amazingly rich and live fantastic lives. Just the other people.

It's such a fantastic lesson: it's a glorified to-do list. They got rich off a to-do list app.

Focusing on the simple things that everyone needs, rather than the complex esoteric problems that engineers enjoy, is where it's at.

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