this is risky move. lot of artist already moved to Vimeo because of quality in the past.
YouTube locks 4K playback behind Premium subscriptions in latest test
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The same way YouTube was making money from 2005 till today?
Have they been profitable all this while though? They were operating at massive losses for a long while.
The fact that they chose to operate at a loss for decades in order to unfairly monopolize market share is their own self inflicted problem.
You reap what you sow.
I'm not paying YouTube/Google one single dime. They already monetize all my private data and viewing habits.
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#23I have a family Premium subscription. I'm sad this can not be the default YouTube experience for everybody as every time I see someone watching YT without a sub I do not understand how they can tolerate the barrage of advertising.
Surely this attention economy model must be a loss for humanity as a whole, no?
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#24Can someone tell me how YouTube is supposed to make money without ads and premium service? No one has been able to give me a straight answer.
Cute thought experiment:
Google is notorious for snuffing products they consider unprofitable. Yet persisted with Youtube for 16 years. Why?
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#25Can someone tell me how YouTube is supposed to make money without ads and premium service? No one has been able to give me a straight answer.
Cute thought experiment: Google is notorious for snuffing products they consider unprofitable. Yet persisted with Youtube for 16 years. Why?
Because owning the world's biggest video distribution monopoly was worth 16+ years of losses for them. Same like owning Twitter.
They have almost no competition.
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Firefox gives me a great ad-free YouTube experience.
Yes but then creators and YouTube don’t get paid.
I don't care about YouTube getting paid, but apparently YT Premium is lucrative for the creators (in comparison to ads). It's a very cheap way to support the people who make the content that you enjoy.
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#28I have a family Premium subscription. I'm sad this can not be the default YouTube experience for everybody as every time I see someone watching YT without a sub I do not understand how they can tolerate the barrage of advertising. Surely this attention economy model must be a loss for humanity as a whole, no?
I just use ad blockers. I haven't a YouTube ad in years.
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#29Can someone tell me how YouTube is supposed to make money without ads and premium service? No one has been able to give me a straight answer.
Cute thought experiment: Google is notorious for snuffing products they consider unprofitable. Yet persisted with Youtube for 16 years. Why?
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The same way YouTube was making money from 2005 till today?
Have they been profitable all this while though? They were operating at massive losses for a long while.
I think the right question is: are they free cash flow-positive? I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. "Operating at a loss" means different things to different people.
Profit is an irrelevant metric for a company like YT that would reinvest every dollar of FCF into growth. (See Amazon for the well-fleshed out reasoning as to why this is so.)